scook


Per-capita would tell you how likely something would happen within a population not within an area. I would imagine "per square mile" would be a measurement related to area. I suppose you could mash up persons per square mile and get some kind of figure. That what makes stats so much fun. Anecdotes notwithstanding, I still think you guys are bitter about being so unhip.

I'm from Canada, man - how much more unhip does it get? ;)


That being said, I've lived here 6 months last year, 3 and a half this year, and NY is pretty awesome, no matter what the rest of the world thinks. 

Rain

scook


Are those the population figures SMSA or political boundaries or what? Bear in mind the FBI numbers are under reported and we would need to do a quite bit more research to really get to the heart of NYC's murder problem.

If such is the case, wouldn't it be the same for every other city we're comparing NY to?

 
Interesting tactic, ignore the first question and ask an unknowable question in response. The easy answer would be no, that would need to be established some way. Alternately one might claim that it would be unfair to assert that everywhere under reports crime at the same rate as NYC.

I'm from Canada, man - how much more unhip does it get? ;)

 
So is Traynor... YBA-1 was a really cool amp and their new YGM-3 is really cool! Plus Neil Young and IIRC The BAND? Then there are the Ice Road Truckers.... and RUSH. IRT is OK but I never developed a taste for RUSH, I think it is because the first album I bought by them was some awful live thing from the mid/early 70s. Rain is always cool though and of course the Cirque.
 
BTW, going out to dinner tonight, going to give the name Corleone when they ask... heh. Maybe Luciano.. nah, Corleone is better.
 
J

Rain

 

I'm from Canada, man - how much more unhip does it get? ;)


That being said, I've lived here 6 months last year, 3 and a half this year, and NY is pretty awesome, no matter what the rest of the world thinks. 
 

Don't know, the article skipped Canada completely. Yeah, it doesn't take long for the effect to set it. It does wear off over time. BTW, do I have to add the emoticons for this stuff?

scook

Rain

scook


Are those the population figures SMSA or political boundaries or what? Bear in mind the FBI numbers are under reported and we would need to do a quite bit more research to really get to the heart of NYC's murder problem.

If such is the case, wouldn't it be the same for every other city we're comparing NY to?

 
Interesting tactic, ignore the first question and ask an unknowable question in response. The easy answer would be no, that would need to be established some way. Alternately one might claim that it would be unfair to assert that everywhere under reports crime at the same rate as NYC.

No a tactic - english is my second language - I have no clue what SMSA means. Feel free to rip on me for getting into an argument w/ you for that. I simply googled up the inhabitants numbers for each city. That was enough for me - as for the rest, from my time in NY, it seems to match my impression - which doesn't date back from 40 years. 


So there you have it - we can't know, there are too many variables, the FBI is hiding the truth from us about how horrible the crime rate is in NY, distorting the facts and playing w/ statistics. No need to discus about it. 


Peace,  I'm out.

Rain

 

I'm from Canada, man - how much more unhip does it get? ;)


That being said, I've lived here 6 months last year, 3 and a half this year, and NY is pretty awesome, no matter what the rest of the world thinks. 
 

Don't know, the article skipped Canada completely. Yeah, it doesn't take long for the effect to set it. It does wear off over time. BTW, do I have to add the emoticons for this stuff?

That's right rip on an old man.
BTW your English is plenty good enough.
I would have been very surprised if you knew what a Standard Metropolitan Statistical Area was. I would not know had I been exposed to this junk in a deep dark past. It isn't that what we have been talking about is unknowable but is complex and difficult to know. At least well beyond my understanding and I freely admit it. But as I said before, numbers can be massaged many ways.

jbow

I'm from Canada, man - how much more unhip does it get? ;)

 
So is Traynor... YBA-1 was a really cool amp and their new YGM-3 is really cool! Plus Neil Young and IIRC The BAND? Then there are the Ice Road Truckers.... and RUSH. IRT is OK but I never developed a taste for RUSH, I think it is because the first album I bought by them was some awful live thing from the mid/early 70s. Rain is always cool though and of course the Cirque.
 
BTW, going out to dinner tonight, going to give the name Corleone when they ask... heh. Maybe Luciano.. nah, Corleone is better.
 
J

Thanks Julien. :) I remember playing a little Traynor in High School (school's property, I couldn't afford an amp back then). That thing was indestructible.


I'm no big fan of Rush either, though I can appreciate their immense talent. My favorite Canadian band still is The Tea Party. And Neil Young, yep, he's the man. - Oh and my wife, of course. ;)

scook


That's right rip on an old man.
BTW your English is plenty good enough.
I would have been very surprised if you knew what a Standard Metropolitan Statistical Area was. I would not know had I been exposed to this junk in a deep dark past. It isn't that what we have been talking about is unknowable but is complex and difficult to know. At least well beyond my understanding and I freely admit it. But as I said before, numbers can be massaged many ways.

Maybe that sounded harsh - my apologies for that.


One's perception of NY is linked to his expectation. I love music, shows, museums - and music stores. 


I work at home so I don't have to deal w/ MTA and their unreliable busses. That would probably affect my perception of the city if I had to rely on them daily. Though my wife does and she still adores NY just as much as I.


The place where we live is clean and nice w/ good security - which does taint my judgement. I might not have the same appreciation if I lived elsewhere. 


Though I feel more at home in East Village than in Manhattan, I dig this part of the city too.


More than anything, even if I'm not a people's person, I have to say that the majority of the people I meet in NY are actually surprisingly nice. Every one remembered us from last year - even the guy in that shop where I bought a suit once last year. 

Really, the things that bug me are tourists in Time Square, cab drivers and the wheater. That's about it.


So that's MY New York. Someone else's may be different.

craigb


I think a place could only be cool if the masses didn't know it was cool (or, even better, if the masses didn't even know about it at all!).

The masses?  or Them a$$es