Hi
I'm knocked out with the monthly updates - fantastic stuff - but since it's been this way, Sonar on my computer has been much more prone to crashes than ever before. About every 4 - 5 sessions, I'll change a setting, might be open Melodyne, or select record on a track, or change a midi channel - little things .. and Sonar crashes. There's nothing consistent happening like the same VST instrument causing it, the things triggering the crashes could be anything.
 
Has anybody else noticed this? I'm certainly open to the fact it is my machine rather than Sonar, just wondered if I'm the only one.
Cheers Dave

I haven't had that experience personally myself, but if you have a look around the forum, you will find you are not alone. I have read of similar experiences a number of times.

You're not the only one but by and large there are more with stable setups reporting gradual improvement in Sonar.
There are some known bugs and always something that gets by testing but also very quick response with fixes, usually in a matter of days.

If you're a bit more specific about what's happening when the symptoms occur and a bit about your computer and sound card will help us help you to trouble shoot with you.

Thanks Mike,
 
I'm going to start logging what I'm doing when it happens and see if I can see any pattern developing. I haven't done anything different to my system since the problem started happening so it's something already in my machine.
Cheers

stable as a horse
 

Thanks Dana .. as they say, when you have a crash, you've got to get back on that horse

By any chance, are you using any 3rd-party plugins in a 64-bit Sonar?  Many folks have moved away from using 3rd-party plugins (either completely or as far as they can), because of recurring stability issues, both in BitBridge and with JBridge.  (Those are bridging applications that Sonar uses to allow 32-bit plugins to run in 64-bit Sonar.  BitBridge comes with Sonar, and JBridge can be purchased for around $20 off the web).
 
Anyways, take a project where you have had multiple crashes, make a backup copy of the whole folder, then you can experiment safely to see if your plugins are problematic, first by figuring out which 32-bit plugins are present in that project, and then look to see if there are either 64-bit versions available (many companies offer free updates to purchased 32-bit plugins, to make them 64-bit).  If so, swap out the 32-bit ones for their 64-bit replacements, and see if that takes care of it.  For the 32-bit plugins left in the project, I would suggest you find some 64-bit equivalent that gets you close, and then see if your stability issues go away.
 
Perhaps there is a better way to do the above - it's late in the wee hours and my brain went to sleep several hours ago.
 
In any case - I hope things become stable for you.  Moving forward, I highly recommend moving completely away from using 32-bit plugins in 64-bit Sonar projects.
 
Bob Bone
 

Also, is Windows Maintenance up to date?  If not, I suggest you bring it current.
 
Lastly, if you are using ASIO drivers of an audio interface for Sonar, AND you have the Windows Default Audio Device also set to point to the interface, you could be having issues where there is conflict between Sonar and Windows for the ASIO drivers.
 
I always set my music programs, such as Sonar or my stand-alone synths, to use the ASIO drivers of my audio interface, and then I set Windows Default Audio Device to use the HDMI output from my computer, which runs to my HDTV that I use as a display for the computer, and that way there is never any conflict for me.
 
Bob Bone
 
 

Thanks for all those suggestions Bob. I only have one 32bit VST which I am now going to uninstall and rescan just the 64 bit ones. Your suggestions for the ASIO drivers are interesting. I use the ASIO drivers with a Delta Audiophile 2496 soundcard, so I'll look at rearranging the Windows audio device as you suggested. Bottom line though, I suppose, is that with the existing setup, drivers, VST's, Sonar was a very stable program. It is only in the last 6 months that I have experienced problems. I'm certainly not laying them at the feet of Cakewalk - there are so many areas of a system that can cause problems. Thank you for your help.
Cheers
Dave

I haven't crashed in a really long time - maybe years plural. I have found in the past that when I have a project that crashes, it tends to be more likely to crash again. Try starting again fresh. Watch for the the last changes you made before your first crash.

I rarely use 32 bit plugs these days.