Jonbouy

Fox News:

Fair and balanced?

bapu

Jonbouy

Fox News:

Fair and balanced?

It must be given the source.

Actually though this is where opinion ended.  In the court.

 “As a result of this investigation and criminal enforcement agreement, Gibson has acknowledged that it failed to act on information that the Madagascar ebony it was purchasing may have violated laws intended to limit overharvesting and conserve valuable wood species from Madagascar, a country which has been severely impacted by deforestation,” said Assistant Attorney General Moreno. “Gibson has ceased acquisitions of wood species from Madagascar and recognizes its duty under the U.S. Lacey Act to guard against the acquisition of wood of illegal origin by verifying the circumstances of its harvest and export, which is good for American business and American consumers.”

Jonbouy

bapu

Jonbouy

Fox News:

Fair and balanced?

It must be given the source.

Actually though this is where opinion ended.  In the court.

 “As a result of this investigation and criminal enforcement agreement, Gibson has acknowledged that it failed to act on information that the Madagascar ebony it was purchasing may have violated laws intended to limit overharvesting and conserve valuable wood species from Madagascar, a country which has been severely impacted by deforestation,” said Assistant Attorney General Moreno. “Gibson has ceased acquisitions of wood species from Madagascar and recognizes its duty under the U.S. Lacey Act to guard against the acquisition of wood of illegal origin by verifying the circumstances of its harvest and export, which is good for American business and American consumers.”

Did Fox News get it all wrong? 

I always suggest to people that they should watch and follow multiple news sources, decifer the information for themselves and come up with their own conclusions to obtaining all of the facts. 

All of the news sources are not really interested in facts anymore, they are more interested in ratings and what sells viewers.

MakeShift


I always suggest to people that they should watch and follow multiple news sources, decifer the information for themselves and come up with their own conclusions to obtaining all of the facts. 

All of the news sources are not really interested in facts anymore, they are more interested in ratings and what sells viewers.

I enjoy Fox News along with a few others, including Al-Jazeera.

This is my favourite though along with the BBC.

http://uk.reuters.com/

I think that was the previous case where they got busted and actually copped a plea.

This latest one which was officially "dropped" after Gibson paid the fine was a repeat offense.



:-)

I'm smiling broadly while thinking about a producer from FOX not being able to reach any one at the Indian Embassy. That's a fact I can accept at face value.

"Tell them I'm not here."

:-)

Jonbouy

This is my favourite though along with the BBC. 

http://uk.reuters.com/

Too many werds. Not enuf pix.

Actually, I have always enjoyed The Sun, for its pix. 

MakeShift


I always suggest to people that they should watch and follow multiple news sources, decifer the information for themselves and come up with their own conclusions to obtaining all of the facts. 

All of the news sources are not really interested in facts anymore, they are more interested in ratings and what sells viewers.

+1
 
Also, the owners of these media corporations tend to reflect their own views on subject matter and the truth/facts gets lost in the midst.  

"Guitarhacker


http://weeklyworldnews.co...-all-acoustic-guitars/  "

That's a great link... here's an excerpted quote from September 8, 2011: "The Feds are going to raid Taylor, Martin and Collings guitars and all Guitar Centers around the country in the next few days."


well, gee whiz.... that turned out to be a outright lie. Why would you provide a link from a spineless liar as proof of concept?

That's not working for me.

http://www.examiner.com/a...certs-to-seize-guitars

Here's a fun quote excerpted from that piece of trash "Administration officials have threatened to raid summer concerts in order to seize what it deems to be illegal guitars made from wood that has been banned."

Who reads this stuff?

That's pathetic... Where's the actual quote and the attribution to an actual real life human "Administration official".

I dislike liars... and the author is a liar. Bummer.

Got any better links?

"Personally, I have not heard of any individuals having instruments seized at customs crossings."

Roger that, neither have I.

"I think if I understood correctly in one of the stories, that has been corrected by a Senator."

I think it's more like a Senator said he did that.

quote>>> The threat was enough to send U.S. Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., quickly leaping into action to make sure the government is prevented from seizing guitars made with forbidden wood provided they were manufactured prior to 2008. A law passed 112 years ago in order to regulate bird feathers used in hats was amended in 2008 to protect wood in "protected forests."

When you put it that way it sort of makes it seem exciting... like when pre '98 full autos got grandfathered in.

I think the price of my '92 SG just went through the roof. Thanks Lamar! I think.


Does anyone know of any post 1998 guitars that have been confiscated from individuals?

Does anyone know of any guitar owner who has had to contact their Senator about a personally owned guitar that has been confiscated?

"It was in the original intent of this law to seize guitars in this manner."

That's like... not true. Not even close to true.

The 2008 updates were intended to empower the feds to kick in our doors and confiscate our hard wood floors.

Why do so many guitarists think we are the center of the universe? Bummer.

The guitar trade is a tiny fraction of the USA's imported wood consumption... the thought that a law was crafted so some one could confiscate guitars seems like oh-so-much self flattery.

Actually, The intent of the law is to discourage the trade of illegally harvested wood.

Does anyone know anyone who has had their doors kicked in and their hard wood floors confiscated by force?

 

"I did understand that the feds did, however, seize guitars already made at the Gibson factory and I do not recall the details if this included any that were back to the factory for repairs that fit that category." 

That's an incredible stretch of the imagination. This should be easy.

How many people have claimed to have lost their personal guitars from the raid at Gibson?

None? Zero? Zilch? Or more than that?






I think it would have made a great episode for "Cops"... then we could all see what really happened.

:-)


all the best,
mike