Mike... I'm not gonna spar with you over this.  You can dissect my lines, words, and quotes word by word if you wish.... have fun. 

I have my 69 Gibson SG. I don't care if it was made from the last mahogany tree on the planet. It plays and sounds good. That's all that matters. 

Gibson did what Gibson did. They didn't consult me and I can't change it.  I still think they make good guitars and I would not hesitate to buy another one if I ever decided I needed another guitar. 

If you don't want to buy from them, don't. 

"I don't care if it was made from the last mahogany tree on the planet."

Now we're getting down to some straight forward communication.

I can respect that you have an opinion. Mine's different.

I don't understand why you would post those links to the liars instead of just telling it like it is.

Take care.

all the best,
mike

MakeShift


Actually, I have always enjoyed The Sun, for its pix. 

I'm not surprised it has the same owner as Fox News.

Another multi-national company bigger than the governments on whose shores it decides to further it's representation.

It's been quite something to watch the Sun move it's political standpoint over the years, one way then the other, of course it's owners have no editorial control...  That would be just plain sleaze.

Conservation is absolutely futile. Unless we get a grip on overpopulation, everything on this planet will be consumed anyway, so what does it matter if a wood species goes extinct now, 10 years from now, or 50. It is inevitable, so we might as well enjoy it while it lasts. I say let Gibson have its wood. In 100 years when there is nothing left, those with a fine Mahogany guitar will appreciate them all the more on their long trip to colonize Titan.

foxwolfen


Conservation is absolutely futile. Unless we get a grip on overpopulation, everything on this planet will be consumed anyway, so what does it matter if a wood species goes extinct now, 10 years from now, or 50. It is inevitable, so we might as well enjoy it while it lasts. I say let Gibson have its wood. In 100 years when there is nothing left, those with a fine Mahogany guitar will appreciate them all the more on their long trip to colonize Titan.

Or as firewood.

Is this open and shut case of original, hardshell construction?

I guess some of you have never seen a video where a guitar like a 1959 Gibson is worth $400,000 or more. Let me find one of those videos perhaps. Now, is the wood still good?? Is it petrified wood yet??

I was wrong, it is no longer worth $400,000 now it is worth $750,000. Price in 1959 - $275! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjGaJj_-itE Got one in your attic in a brown hardwood case perhaps?? (or similiar)

I think my 1980 Gibson Sonex is made from MDF.

Conservation is absolutely futile. Unless we get a grip on overpopulation

No doubt. But overpopulation and environmental destruction both stem from the same basic problem, which Guitarhacker has eloquently expressed in his metaphor about his guitar, " I don't care if it was made from the last mahogany tree on the planet." The problem is not that there are too many of us (although there are) but that there are too many of us who do not care about anything except what we personally want to own. The massive deforestation of the North American continent in the last three hundred years is just a large scale application of the primitive slash and burn mentality that brought humans out of the caves. 

In sparsely populated regions of the planet, the few people available still tend to exploit the resources as aggressively as their (in some cases primitive) technology will allow. The myth of the spiritually superior noble savage who only hunted what he and his family could eat, was given the lie by the introduction of snowmobiles and high powered rifles. Given the option to hunt their prey to extinction and sell anything they could not eat themselves, members of "traditional cultures" have become among the most destructive of our species. We were just as destructive in our hearts when our numbers were small, and our powers were weak. Now we are many and powerful and just as short-sighted and greedy as we were when we first took up tools.

The desire to make many children in spite of the limit to the planet's ability to support them is not so different from the desire to cure our impotence with rhinocerous horn, or cut the last mahogany tree to make a guitar. What I do find interesting, however is the overlap between people who demand that we stop collecting taxes to help our neighbors, because doing so will burden our childre with crushing debt, and those who find no problem following a destructively selfish course of action that will leave those children with a barren planet. 

So yes, I agree that conservation will eventually fail. The greed and lack of compassion and imagination that is our behavioral heritage as a species acts as a constant ratchet that locks every destructive action against the possibilty of backsliding into preserving what we cannot create, or even just letting it be. Still knowing that we will all die does not mean we should accept murder.