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2016/05/10 17:12:21
John
rlared
Also is there any stability issues with mixing VST and VST3 effects?  This is something I do pretty often.





I have not noticed any issues with mixing VST 2,4 with VST 3. Or for that matter DX. This is true only with Sonar not so with some other DAWs. 
2016/05/10 17:18:04
bapu
rlared
Definitely one happened when replacing VST synths while running the transport

What were you thinking? That you were in Studio One's gapless engine?

2016/05/10 17:20:07
bapu
rlared
Also is there any stability issues with mixing VST and VST3 effects?  This is something I do pretty often.


Many moons ago yes, but that is supposed to be all sorted out now. I've not had any issues since that fix.
2016/05/10 22:58:08
Amicus717
My problems always seem to come down to audio hardware and drivers. I had pretty upsetting stability problems in Sonar X3 and SPLAT for a while, including freezes, BSODs, audio engine dying, etc, many of which resolved themselves only when I moved on from my Roland interface (Vstudio 700) to an old ESI Juli@. Before I did that, nothing I tried helped at all - not a brand new install onto a pristine HD, nor a new motherboard and power supply, nor any sort of Windows optimizations. I was at the point of almost ditching Sonar and using Reaper full-time (which was a lot more stable, if a lot less fun to use). 
 
Things got better once I reinstalled my old Juli@ (still not perfect, but a marked improvement -- in particular, an end to BSODs and the random system freezes), and I was thrilled about that. I've used other DAWs, but none of them work for me like Sonar does in terms of workflow and all-around comfortableness.
 
I started running an RME Babyface this past week, and I can't believe the difference in stability. I've been pushing my system hard all this week, and nothing but rock solid performance across the board. It's only a week, I know, so its a pretty small sample size to start drawing any conclusions. However, I don't recall ever going a week without Sonar coughing up at least one hairball, so I think it bodes really well. The benefit of having good hardware with first-class, proven drivers simply cannot be over-stated.  
2016/05/10 23:44:19
Sh03e
Amicus717
My problems always seem to come down to audio hardware and drivers. I had pretty upsetting stability problems in Sonar X3 and SPLAT for a while, including freezes, BSODs, audio engine dying, etc, many of which resolved themselves only when I moved on from my Roland interface (Vstudio 700) to an old ESI Juli@. Before I did that, nothing I tried helped at all - not a brand new install onto a pristine HD, nor a new motherboard and power supply, nor any sort of Windows optimizations. I was at the point of almost ditching Sonar and using Reaper full-time (which was a lot more stable, if a lot less fun to use). 
 
Things got better once I reinstalled my old Juli@ (still not perfect, but a marked improvement -- in particular, an end to BSODs and the random system freezes), and I was thrilled about that. I've used other DAWs, but none of them work for me like Sonar does in terms of workflow and all-around comfortableness.
 
I started running an RME Babyface this past week, and I can't believe the difference in stability. I've been pushing my system hard all this week, and nothing but rock solid performance across the board. It's only a week, I know, so its a pretty small sample size to start drawing any conclusions. However, I don't recall ever going a week without Sonar coughing up at least one hairball, so I think it bodes really well. The benefit of having good hardware with first-class, proven drivers simply cannot be over-stated.  


Yes this experience can't be overlooked, i was in the same issue long ago with X3 Studio and Digital Performer with an oldie Tascam US-800, that audio interface give me only nightmares, poor support in drivers, frequently BSODs since i'm in my Roland QuadCapture everything is almost flawless here, so is really important not just to buy a fancy good looking audio interface but a good one with rock solid drivers support.
2016/05/11 09:23:47
JayCee99
Update: I wiped the installation per the instructions that Zargg linked to last night and reinstalled.  So far after a few hours of use, Platinum seems to be running more smoothly and there were not any crashes or issues.  I used it with Kontact, Addictive Drums 2 and Hybrid 3.  Will report back after a few more days of use, but at this point I'm hopeful that it was just some bad libraries or something.
2016/05/12 08:20:38
stevec
rlared
Update: I wiped the installation per the instructions that Zargg linked to last night and reinstalled.  So far after a few hours of use, Platinum seems to be running more smoothly and there were not any crashes or issues.  I used it with Kontact, Addictive Drums 2 and Hybrid 3.  Will report back after a few more days of use, but at this point I'm hopeful that it was just some bad libraries or something.





Hey, that's good news.    FWIW, I use Kontakt and AD2 in every project, and I have an 18i6 so it's a similar setup (except for Windows itself).   Hopefully you'll see the type of stability that I do!
 
2016/05/12 10:41:06
musicroom
Using an older Q9550 cpu pc here that I've maintained and improved along the way (PS, HDs/SSD, RAM, etc.) Out of the 13 possible problem areas Craig listed, I've had to take on 7 of those over the years. I try to practice keeping my pc mostly clean of any "too good to be true that's it's free software" utilities. Stopping software like dropbox, etc. from automatically loading on startup. Having a good reputable audio interface with solid drivers is very important! I cleaned out the finicky and in most cases very old free plugins from my system about 3 years ago. Very solid move to part with those. And finally, when/if I have problems I can't find or cure, I pull out a streamlined backup copy of my C-drive that contains a bloat free OS and a few selected primary programs. It's an undertaking to update, load software and put in all the license information, but what that does for me is similar to getting a new computer. I've only done that twice in the last 7 years.
 
Bottom line, I find Sonar to be trustworthy and stable or I would not use it. I also never lose site that we are loading software on an "internal parts may and will vary" computer system.
2016/05/12 10:44:36
Zargg
rlared
Update: I wiped the installation per the instructions that Zargg linked to last night and reinstalled.  So far after a few hours of use, Platinum seems to be running more smoothly and there were not any crashes or issues.  I used it with Kontact, Addictive Drums 2 and Hybrid 3.  Will report back after a few more days of use, but at this point I'm hopeful that it was just some bad libraries or something.


Hope this was all that was needed, Lee.
All the best.



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