2012/07/28 23:02:16
craigb
Crg


Janet


I recently got the book "Hearing and Writing Music.'  Must have seen it referenced somewhere here...don't remember.  I'm only up to chapter 3, but they're talking about how the scale was 'invented.'  You know, I've been wondering about that (and how they first figured out how to write music on staves) for awhile...and find it fascinating, although a little tough to get around this simple brain of mine. 

But I feel like a music nerd, spending part of my Saturday afternoon reading this.  :)  

(but I also figured some of you could possibly relate.)  :) 


Janet, why would you ask a bunch of music nerds that question? So why isn't there a #&b between 3&4?


There is on some scales, no?
2012/07/28 23:07:00
Janet
Crg...  :)

John...Howard Goodall... so much more to explore!  :)  

craigb, and the rest...I knew I was in good company. :)
2012/07/28 23:11:06
Janet
Bob...missed your post...yes.  And I sorta feel like that with gardening too sometimes.  (and other things too.)  But people enjoy my flowers, so I don't care. :)  
2012/07/29 00:40:23
noldar12
Yeah, definitely nerdy. 

Does the author mention anything about Guido's hand, Gregorian Chant runes, etc.?

Some of the very early attempts at polyphony/harmony/counterpoint from the extant music of the 11th and 12th centuries are rather "interesting" (one cannot necessarily say "good"): for example, works by Leoninus and Perotinus.

FWIW, when composing, I still sometimes prefer modes over the new-fangled things like major/minor tuning systems <smile>.

As for alternate scales, while not scale related, I am thinking of some Middle Eastern folk music that had a very complex meter of 23/8 with very specific groupings of 2 and 3.
2012/07/29 08:39:35
Guitarhacker
Janet


"The more you know, the more you know you don't know."


So true!  :)  
yup

2012/07/29 09:09:37
SteveStrummerUK
RobertB


Seize your nerdiness, Janet.
Some may consider us weird, but I prefer to think of us as eccentric.
The thing with knowledge and understanding is the more you have, the more you want.
My basic tenet: The more you know, the more you know you don't know.
Read on.

 
Well put Bob.
 
 
2012/07/29 18:37:45
Janet
Jim, I haven't gotten that far into it, but it looks like Howard Goodall on youtube will.  Fascinating.  Not sure if it will help me play any better but maybe I can try to sound like I know what I'm talking about when I teach young piano students.  Maybe.  

Steve and Herb...Bob's good at that, isn't he?  :)
2012/07/29 21:39:17
Rain
Janet


I recently got the book "Hearing and Writing Music.'  Must have seen it referenced somewhere here...don't remember.  I'm only up to chapter 3, but they're talking about how the scale was 'invented.'  You know, I've been wondering about that (and how they first figured out how to write music on staves) for awhile...and find it fascinating, although a little tough to get around this simple brain of mine. 

But I feel like a music nerd, spending part of my Saturday afternoon reading this.  :)  

(but I also figured some of you could possibly relate.)  :) 

Is there such a thing? Why do you things I hang out here? lol 

Said it before - I'm the guy who read the whole manual TWICE before I even installed my first Cakewalk product. For someone who'd never touched a synth (or any midi device for that matter), the chapters about NRPN were pretty hardcore. lol


Seriously, even talking to people who are in the business on a regular basis made me realize that they could only suffer so much obsessive geek talk. I do have one buddy back home in Montreal with whom I can talk about compressors and plug-ins for 6 hours straight. But he's an exception. Fortunately, there's internet.





2012/07/29 21:48:15
noldar12
Janet, as far as traditional music history is concerned, the long-standing key text has been the various editions of ye olde Grout: A History of Western Music.  More recent editions at least discuss other types of music besides "classical".

The book can be a cure for insomnia at times (as I remember it), but there really is no substitute for it.  Older, used, editions can be had for a decent price.
2012/07/29 21:57:46
Janet
Rain, I'm the gal who couldn't even understand the first cakewalk manual I read...and it was the beginner's version!  I had no idea what any of it was talking about.  Fortunately, some very kind, helpful and wise guys (Reece, Bob, Albert, Herb & Greg among them) helped me out extremely patiently, or I wouldn't have recorded the first song.  

Jim, sounds interesting.  I'll keep that in mind when I need another 'fix.'  :) 
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