My rhythm guitar player (from Jr. & Sr. High School daze) still has his 64 Strat. Only bummer was he modded it for a humbucker in the bridge position. Less bummer was he saved his pickup and since got an original pick guard and has it "restored" (well the routing for the humbucker was not restored). He never plans on selling it though. It was his first guitar. And, he still has his 64 Tweed Princeton (I'm 99% certain it's a Princeton, mebee not though). He did have to replace the speaker once.

Back at our reunion (Feb. 7, 2009) he brought both of them with him. Good memories. 

My first "real" amp was a 1965 princeton reverb blackface.  Not sure the 64's were even available in tweed.  Could be tho...I've slept since then.

My first amp at all was a 5 watt tube no brand name that simply had one knob which was on/volume/off.  My second was the famous Silvertone in the case rig.  Loved that guitar.  But then, for my 15th birthday, a daphne blue musicmaster and the Princeton Reverb.  Should have just stopped there.  Too late now;-)

It's a bad refin using black instead of brown. There's some damage around the nut. THe pots and tone cap are correct but somebody messed with the pickups at some point.

A refin like that cuts the value by 50%. I can get one that's completely straight for $38,000, so this one might go for $16,000 all things considered. SO that would be about 7,000 pounds?

THe case is quite rare although trashed. You don't see many of the centre pocket cases. Curious to see what it goes for.

WOW

bapu


My rhythm guitar player (from Jr. & Sr. High School daze) still has his 64 Strat. Only bummer was he modded it for a humbucker in the bridge position. Less bummer was he saved his pickup and since got an original pick guard and has it "restored" (well the routing for the humbucker was not restored). He never plans on selling it though. It was his first guitar. And, he still has his 64 Tweed Princeton (I'm 99% certain it's a Princeton, mebee not though). He did have to replace the speaker once.

Back at our reunion (Feb. 7, 2009) he brought both of them with him. Good memories. 

THe Princeton was brown tolex by 1961. The Champ stayed tweed until mid 64 when it went to black tolex but the same cab and chassis. A mid 64 Champ looks very much like a modern Pro Junior. In 65 it went to the traditional blackface look and chassis.


Having said that, there are exceptions to every rule. I recently went to check out what was advertised as a 61 tweed Deluxe. They were supposed have stopped production in 60 and been brown in 61. It was a nice fake but the idiot put a 61 ink stamp on a 50's style tube chart. The chart was also fake.


Vintage guitars and amps have become so expensive that people will spend the time and money to make very good fakes. Buyer beware.

I told you it was pretty crazy out there.  John could be spot on...it's really hard to ascertain without actually examining the guitar.  I once saw a 60 model strat body...just the body with the bridge intact...that had been in a fire and had pretty severe smoke and bubble damage that they were asking $3500.00 for.  This was at the fall Dallas Guitar Show about 10 years ago.  Lawd knows what's happening on todays market...I don't claim to have a clue...I quit following it then and there.  I guess it's like they say...a fool and his money are soon parted.

ampfixer

bapu


My rhythm guitar player (from Jr. & Sr. High School daze) still has his 64 Strat. Only bummer was he modded it for a humbucker in the bridge position. Less bummer was he saved his pickup and since got an original pick guard and has it "restored" (well the routing for the humbucker was not restored). He never plans on selling it though. It was his first guitar. And, he still has his 64 Tweed Princeton (I'm 99% certain it's a Princeton, mebee not though). He did have to replace the speaker once.

Back at our reunion (Feb. 7, 2009) he brought both of them with him. Good memories. 

THe Princeton was brown tolex by 1961. The Champ stayed tweed until mid 64 when it went to black tolex but the same cab and chassis. A mid 64 Champ looks very much like a modern Pro Junior. In 65 it went to the traditional blackface look and chassis.


Having said that, there are exceptions to every rule. I recently went to check out what was advertised as a 61 tweed Deluxe. They were supposed have stopped production in 60 and been brown in 61. It was a nice fake but the idiot put a 61 ink stamp on a 50's style tube chart. The chart was also fake.


Vintage guitars and amps have become so expensive that people will spend the time and money to make very good fakes. Buyer beware.

Thanks for jogging the memory. yes, he owns a Champ not a Princeton.

 
It's starting to get a bit more interesting now - currently at £10,000 (approx $15,688)