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2015/03/31 21:46:58
ViRiX Dreamcore
Hi 
 
I have SONAR Artist and so far it's working very nicely. However, I wanted to try some of the MIDI FX and when I drag one in (Quantize) it says that it might not have been installed properly. The same happens for the other MIDI FX as well. The audio and synths work just fine. I'm not sure what's going on here. I checked the plugin manager and it is pointing to the correct place. How do I install them the right way?
 
I have the Steam version. It also says that the soundcloud encoder is missing when I try to export using that option. Any suggestions? Thanks. 
2015/04/01 03:20:13
lfm
Since you can see the plugins in the list, they are installed correctly.
 
It sounds very much like missing Visual Studio redistribution packages.
That is a package connected to the version of visual studio that last built the plugins - very technical but just FYI. Visual Studio is the development environment from Microsoft used by many.
 
Names of these are "vcredist_x86.exe" or "vcredist_x64.exe".
x86 is for 32-bit and x64 for 64-bit software that is to run, so both is good to install.
 
It should be in the install. You should not have to worry about it.
 
But you can get it working more quickly by hinting support about it.
Maybe the forum hosts have links directly to these needed.
 
These can also be googled but you need to know which Visual Studio version 2005, 2008, 2010 or 2013 or something doing that. You can look in installed software in Windows which of these are missing - it doesn't hurt to have it all.
 
 
2015/04/01 10:43:44
ViRiX Dreamcore
Hm. I am somewhat familiar with Visual Studio. I've been looking in the SONAR folder to see if I can find a vcredist but can't seem to find one anywhere. I've written support about it. This is odd though.
 
Steam auto-installed it, so not sure what could've happened within that. Maybe the 64 bit sonar has it's own set of MIDI plugins that it needs? Hmm. I tried pointing to the 32 bit versions, but those don't show up. 
2015/04/01 10:58:00
lfm
There are also security updates on these, to confuse even more.
VS 2005 is an update june 2011, to mention one I know about.
I ran a security update on VS, and suddenly customers had issues - new redist needed.
 
First I come to think of then is if installer is run as admin or not?
Did Steam miss that part?
Do you have to confirm starting it?
It might not install otherwise, don't remember for sure.
2015/04/01 11:01:58
scook
I am not familiar with Steam and how it installs SONAR but I can tell you MFX like other DirectX plug-ins are host specific, in that 32bit MFX plug-in require a 32bit host and 64bit MPX plug-ins require a 64bit host. Since this is a Steam related issue, you may get a better response on the Steam Community Forum.
2015/04/01 12:08:42
ViRiX Dreamcore
I'm not sure if it's steam elated or not. hm. Not sure how to reinstall it if that is the case though. I can just try installing all the redists although I'm pretty sure I have a lot of those installed because of other applications. It didn't ask if I wanted to run the installer, it just ran it. 
2015/04/01 12:38:35
jeteague
Try starting Sonar as "Administrator".  Right click the Sonar icon and choose "run as administrator".  With any luck your problem will be resolved.
  This worked for me in what sounds like a similar situation.
2015/04/01 12:46:09
lfm
ViRiX Dreamcore
I'm not sure if it's steam elated or not. hm. Not sure how to reinstall it if that is the case though. I can just try installing all the redists although I'm pretty sure I have a lot of those installed because of other applications. It didn't ask if I wanted to run the installer, it just ran it. 




Try jeteague's suggestion.
 
If installer starts without you confirming, I don't think it's elevated.
 
Cakewalk Command Center let you confirm at startup - elevating.
Then as elevated it can run redist packages as child processes - and it also runs elevated doing that.
 
I don't have to run Sonar as admin, at least.
2015/04/01 12:55:52
ViRiX Dreamcore
Now THIS might be a steam thing because I'm not suer how to run it as an admin alone unless I close Steam and tell IT to  run as admin. Hmm... Thanks for the help. 
2015/04/01 13:10:41
ViRiX Dreamcore
I've just tried running the 64 bit as admin and still no dice. I'll try loading a new project and doing it again, but don't see why that would make any difference.  In the current project, it says that the plugins are missing or not intalled, and when I open it, it says they installed incorrectly or are missing still. (They are actually there but won't run) Hmm. 
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