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2016/04/30 18:24:26
rsinger
yellowcake64
 
At the moment I'm demoing Guitar Rig 5 and it's pretty good, but I've decided I really want to record the effected sound 'live' rather than add it later as an effect. The post above explains how to record a clean signal whilst hearing the effected signal but this isn't really what I'm after; I'd like to be able to use GR5 more like a hardware effects unit so that when I dial up a sound I like, it's actually recorded. Or I'd at least like the option to do that if I wanted.
 
My question therefore is can this be done? I guess if it can't then I might be better off going for a hardware processor like the Boss GT-001. A traditional guitar/amp set up might be the optimal solution but lack of space and not annoying the neighbours means I have to go down the sim route. 
 
Thanks
YC




As you can tell from previous posts you need to upgrade to Platinum if you want to record direct.
 
If you play guitar have you tried S-Gear? You should give it a try.
http://www.scuffhamamps.com/
 
2016/04/30 18:54:00
John T
I see a few people saying they can't see the point of recording the tone rather than just getting the clean signal and leaving the effect sat there.
 
Well, I'd say this. Technically speaking, there's no advantage. In actual production terms, there's a huge advantage.
 
It's always good, creatively speaking, to make decisions and commit to them, and move on. You get your tone together; you play into the tone and the way the tone works with the track. Get it down, move on.
 
Having a way of eternally tweaking and second-guessing that decision is a horribly tempting road to hell. And you can easily find yourself two months later, still switching in and out different amp sims, no with no recollection of what your idea was in the first place.
 
 
2016/04/30 19:27:58
yellowcake64
Thanks for all your replies guys. John, that's precisely why I want to play things that way. I'd like to use the sim like an amp; get the tone and sound right; record it; move on.
 
That said I guess there's nothing wrong with finding the right tone at the monitoring stage and then applying the same tone later.
 
Either way I appreciate you all taking time to reply. Many thanks! 
 
YC
2016/05/01 00:13:46
Anderton
John T
IIt's always good, creatively speaking, to make decisions and commit to them, and move on. You get your tone together; you play into the tone and the way the tone works with the track. Get it down, move on.



FWIW that was the impetus behind the CA-X amps. I drag one into a track, it's already set up for a certain sound, I'm done. I may tweak some of the knobs while mixing so the guitar sits better in the track, but that's just a variation on a theme, not a whole new theme.
 
So I agree that committing while doing a project is a good thing, but I also think having the flexibility to change the tone later is also a good thing. I did a final mix on a song from 2013 that used [a popular amp sim]. Just for kicks I substituted the Hard Rock CA-X amp, and you could hear the note articulations much more clearly. In that case, I'm glad the flexibility existed to swap out the previous sim.
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