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Basically, I'm amazed Digital Performer is making the trip to Windows.  I don't read KVR ( Banned from Kvr )..  So I totally found out about this tonight.  Here: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2617452

Ofcourse, reading that info, prompts many a google/bing search..  Returning quite a bit...

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/01/digital-performer-runs-on-windows-hell-freezes-over-sonar-left-in-the-cold/

"Sonar left in the cold he says."

I'm not going to link the KVR threads, and obviously, you can find em..  Its mostly people complaining about Apple, while they wind each others xlr cables, and express excitement about the DP's v8.

Years ago, when I used to use Mac, I really wanted to try out Sonar, and Z3ta, and honestly, it may have even been worth switching from Mac, or grabbing a PC to use Sonar with.  ( Rarely, if ever, have I had two computers powerful enough to run Music Software at the same time. )

So if I was so sweet on trying out Sonar, why do I now think it would be a disaster for Cakewalk to port the program to Mac?  In one sentence...  Apple will slash the price of Logic to $99.  I'm fully convinced, and I think its pretty standard to see why, and the implications of that.

So should Sonar be ported to anything?  Linux..  I could make a great long argument, about Sonar being ported to Linux, and how I think that would be a successful move.  But alas, its not without its cons.  Actually, I think preparing for a move to the cloud, and doing instruments across Os X and Windows is quite smart.

You know..  As musicians, I think we begin to care about our tools, and really like the companies we work with.  I'm a huge fan of G & L, and Carvin Guitars.  Marshall Amps, and obviously, I've become really partial to certain software companies...

Mostly, I think Peter Kirn gets it wrong, when he says, "Sonar left in (Windows-Only) Cold."  I'm quite sure, we will now hear massive outcry for Sonar to be ported to Mac, and I wanted to express my opinion.

Steve Jobs was not an evil man.  He was definitely, "one of if not," the greatest marketer to have ever lived.  Upon his death, Apple has changed rapidly, and looks to me, much more like a Walmart, or McDonald's.  You are welcome to make your own judgement, as to why I would make those statements... But really now, I think the importance of Apple has peaked, and now we will begin to see its long, slow decline, to "sony-ville."


The cloud..  That is where everything is going.  That is where products like Amazon and Azure are dominating the platform.  Why fight it out with Logic's eventual $99 price.  Its so obvious why Digital P is coming to Windows Land.  

And as we who have been reading the Cakewalk blog have heard, "Windows 8 is supposed to be a killer OS for Audio."

:-)


Cheers.... 

This discussion comes up every 6 months.

The last time was January 15th, 2012.

I'm waiting for the January 15th, 2013 reappearance.

no matter how often this topic is brought up in these forums, Linear Phase's angle here is pretty good and for once it wasn't the "Mac's are superiour hardware and I want to lick the lid of beauty on a Macbook Pro damn Sonar for not giving me the excuse I need to buy a Macbook"-kind of argument.

The thing is, Apple would price Logic really low - and I am guessing that that's exactly what they are doing for the next upgrade. When MOTU announced that DP was moving to Windows, they said that an important reason was because the DAW was unable to survive financially on just the Mac platform. It kind of says it all. There aren't enough Mac users who want to use something that isn't Apple. Apple doesn't need to make money of Logic, they want to attract people into the Mac world and get money for users of both hardware and the entire eco system - not neccesarily a bad thing, I happen to like Apple.

I think one reason Sonar is such good value is because they can have a large heap of users on the Windows platform and not worry about cross platform compatibility and support. That stuff costs money. So we can use a cheaper software, on cheaper machines that by coincidence are more powerfull and have great support and updates along the way.

It really matters.

The only way it would be a total disaster is if it became Mac only.

Even then it wouldn't be a total disaster, for me at least, because I'd simply choose another Windows app.

It ain't happening though so I don't even know why I posted this.

Bapu?

I think you need to change you locaion Jonbouy, it's currently a lie

Jonbouy


The only way it would be a total disaster is if it became Mac only.

Even then it wouldn't be a total disaster, for me at least, because I'd simply choose another Windows app.

It ain't happening though so I don't even know why I posted this.

Bapu?

Hmmmm... I actually don't know what I'd do. It's an unlikely scenario but if I could get the cash I'd might follow Sonar over to Mac. However, I can't know for sure unless it becomes reality.

Well Adobe ported out Audition to Mac. This entailed rewriting the whole program from scratch, and they even left out a few features such as cd burning, and they sold it as an upgrade which really was a downgrade for the PC users. This whole 5.5 developement cycle was dedicated to getting it onto the mac. So the PC users got the shaft.  The latest version, 6.0 brings back some of the features but still doesn't have midi support. So you are basically paying a $75 upgrade fee to get back the cd burner feature, which they had left out in the 5.5 version.

honestly I would be fine if cake decided to create a mac version.  then maybe all the whining and crying about it not being available on mac would stop.















or would it? 

Scoot


I think you need to change you locaion Jonbouy, it's currently a lie

LOL

I prefer to think of it as irony.

Whereabouts are you? I'm in that no-mans land between Hastings and Rye.