I can't believe what I am seeing, what kind of progress is that ?  IIRC it was even available in the simplest TH2 Sonar version. A really deal breaker for me.

A free amp sim is a deal breaker???

The full version of TH3 has an IR cabinet (supports 2 IR at a time), not sure if that's included in the Cakewalk Edition or not (haven't tried it out yet).

gustabo
A free amp sim is a deal breaker???

 
Yes, if you compare it to free TH2 Producer. Whats the point of ditching IRs?

bronsoncox
The full version of TH3 has an IR cabinet (supports 2 IR at a time), not sure if that's included in the Cakewalk Edition or not (haven't tried it out yet).

I have a trial version of TH3 and was very curious what of that would end up in Sonar version. TH3 is so stripped there is no substantial advantage over TH2 Producer (not mentioning TH2 full).

I haven't tried it, but if you right click on a cab in Sonar TH3 you get Replace with and at the bottom of the list is Cabinet IR.
 
I've been noodling around with the Tweed Deluxe and like what I hear so far. I may upgrade my full version of TH2 to TH3.
 

rsinger
I haven't tried it, but if you right click on a cab in Sonar TH3 you get Replace with and at the bottom of the list is Cabinet IR.
 
I've been noodling around with the Tweed Deluxe and like what I hear so far. I may upgrade my full version of TH2 to TH3.
 

You can replace item only with what's available. IRs are not.

You can have both TH2 and TH3 installed and available on your system. I think the amps and cabs in TH3 are a substantial improvement over TH2. 

Anderton
You can have both TH2 and TH3 installed and available on your system. I think the amps and cabs in TH3 are a substantial improvement over TH2. 

Don't get me wrong - I absolutely love TH?, two years ago I was enough satisfied with TH2 so I could sell my Fractal Axe Fx2. But TH3 Sonar to my (not perfect) ears is marginally better than TH2 Producer: we are getting almost same set of amps, few new (and indeed better) cabs and (!) IRs are taken away (#$^&!). My expectations were higher and my TH3 Sonar edition will be rarely used.

Is there some type of upgrade path from Sonar to Full TH3?
 
Jim