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  • Chord Track / Arrangement Track. (p.3)
2018/04/03 16:20:42
abacab
tobiaslindahl
Stupid question alert:
 
What is the difference between simply playing the chords you want/need yourself and using this chord track thing? 
I looked at some videos and from what I can tell it is like a library of progressions you pick and chose from? Not sure I see the benefit of that, but I am sure I am missing the point as always. 
 
Next logical thing is a similair thing for melodies, and then we can toss our DAW's all together as music creation is nothing more than picking and chosing what the computer tells us. :) 




Stupid question part II:
 
How many DAW users have memorized every scale, mode, inversion, voicing, etc?  What if you are writing for a genre or instrument that you are not familiar with, or have never played?
 
Having a library of the ideas at your fingertips could allow you to experiment outside of your comfort zone, until you hear something that you like.  It is still your composition.  Well unless you're just plugging a chord progression into Band in a Box (just kidding BIAB fans!  ).
 
This question is like saying that having a dictionary, thesaurus, or spellcheck in your word processor is going to write a book for you.
 
Don't be ridiculous! 
2018/04/03 19:26:52
cparmerlee
tobiaslindahl
Stupid question alert:
 
What is the difference between simply playing the chords you want/need yourself and using this chord track thing? 
I looked at some videos and from what I can tell it is like a library of progressions you pick and chose from? Not sure I see the benefit of that, but I am sure I am missing the point as always. 
 
Next logical thing is a similar thing for melodies, and then we can toss our DAW's all together as music creation is nothing more than picking and choosing what the computer tells us. :) 


I don't think the expectation is that the chord track would necessarily drive the final product.  The idea, as I see it, is to have a guide during the creative process.  Let's say you have laid out a song (using all MIDI instruments), and it is sounding pretty good.  But maybe it isn't harmonically interesting enough.  By following the Chord Track, you can quickly experiment with some chord variations, maybe to spice up the bridge.  Or maybe the third verse you want a little more intrigue, so you select more complex chords, or some inversions you don't normally hear.
 
And then when it is sounding good, you un-follow the chords and make your final adjustments to the MIDI.  That's how I would envision this, but others could certainly go with an entirely different work flow.
2018/06/28 04:54:19
Vatche
Studio One V4 Pro now also includes CHORDS feature that works on MIDI and Audio (to certain degree).
It would be very helpful to see it in Cakewalk as well.
2018/06/28 06:01:54
Kamikaze
As my threads been bumped, I'd like to add this cool video as a case for the chord track to include stating the mode (as opposed to the key signature).
 

2018/06/28 12:37:20
mettelus
The capability of S14 is enabled by Melodyne's ARA2, AFAIK. When CbB implements ARA2, that functionality will be available, but what the front end will look like is unknown. Patience Grasshopper, the grunt work has already been done.

FWIW, Melodyne 2 stored tempo info in exported MIDI files long before the drag/drop to the timeline existed.
2018/06/28 13:00:07
Kamikaze
Yeah I referenced ARA2's plans in my OP. My post goes further than just having a chord track. I have the patience, I'm expecting the implementation, I'm just sowing the seed of an idea of something more complete
2018/06/28 13:30:05
bz2838
Studio one 4 has a new chord track, I'm learning the DAW, love the chord track, hope Cakewalk Bandlab includes chord track, then I would go back to Cakewalk because of the work flow and pro channel, otherwise, I'm sticking with Studio One 4.
2018/06/28 18:23:49
msmcleod
I'd love to see a chord track too, but what would be amazing if CbB could go a stage further and do something similar to Liquid Notes. This takes your existing chords/melodies and changes them to varying extremes, from subtle changes to totally way out. Great for developing ideas.
 
 
I have a slightly different idea as to how an arrangement track could work - totally different from Cubase or Studio One:
 
1. You mark groups of tracks (or clips I guess) as belonging to a "part", i.e. Intro, Verse 1 etc.
2. In the arranger, you simply arrange the parts how you want them, repeating parts if required. So basically, it's like a playlist, but for groups of tracks.
 
What this would essentially do is temporarily change the start time of the tracks within each part when the arranger is engaged, without it having to cut/paste what you have already. Multiple arrangements for comparison would also be cool.
 
2018/06/28 19:01:54
bapu
bz2838
Studio one 4 has a new chord track, I'm learning the DAW, love the chord track,


My experience so far is it pretty amazing if you use it judiciously.
2018/06/28 19:03:36
bapu
It's amazing how SO4P can actually change the chord for all audio and MIDI tracks as well as adjust a vocal track too.
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