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  • A simple MIDI editing is driving me crazy!
2016/04/22 12:40:07
rogeriodec
I just want to do something very simple: cut off some measures of beginning of this midi file:
http://www.kunstderfuge.com/-/midi.asp?file=beethoven/symphony_9_4_(c)cvikl.mid
And of course make all other bars to move to the beginning.
To be more specific, select the measures of 1:00:000 to 153:03:090, cut it out (includind Tempo) and what was 153:03:090 must be now 1:00:000.
"Delete Special" is buggy, as "Cut Special" also.
Could anyone tell me how to solve this simple operation?
 
 
2016/04/22 12:51:31
Anderton
I tried the following with your MIDI file, and it seemed to work:
 
1. Place the now time at 153:03:090.
2. Select All.
3. Type "S" (for "split").
4. With All still selected, drag left in the timeline from the Now Time position to the beginning.
5. Choose Edit > Cut Special and check everything except "Shift by Whole Measures."
 
After you click OK, things should be as you want them.
2016/04/22 13:04:28
rogeriodec
Anderton
I tried the following with your MIDI file, and it seemed to work:
 
1. Place the now time at 153:03:090.
2. Select All.
3. Type "S" (for "split").
4. With All still selected, drag left in the timeline from the Now Time position to the beginning.
5. Choose Edit > Cut Special and check everything except "Shift by Whole Measures."
 
After you click OK, things should be as you want them.




Thank you, but it seems you did not get to test what you're saying, in this file, right?
2016/04/22 13:30:19
Klaus
Both "Cut Special"and "Delete Special" work here (I downloaded the MIDI file in question and tested it).
Be sure to check "Delete Hole".
 
To save a bit time regarding step 4:
Since dragging in the timeline to 1:00:000 can take a couple of seconds depending on zoom level and from where you start dragging, it's faster just to click in the top of the timeline (where cursor changes to "Zoom" icon) on the left side of the split.
This selects the time range between Start and Now Time position.
 
2016/04/22 13:42:56
Klaus
Sorry, I'm wrong with what I said about step 4.
I had a marker inserted at that position, that's why this time range got selected. 
 
2016/04/22 14:10:15
rogeriodec
What am I doing wrong?
 
1) Here is the Midi file, already positioned and all selected:

 
2) What happens when pressing "S" (Split)

 
3) Going to 1:01:00 and calling "Cut Special"

 
4) Following the steps you told me, obviously ALL has been deleted:

 
5) Undoing the last action and selecting only the range from 1:00:000 to 153:03:090

 
6) Cut Special with all options selected:

 
7) As you can see, some clips were not moved after Cut Special.

 
So, is not a bug?
2016/04/22 14:51:35
Bristol_Jonesey
Preferences > Customisation > Editing > Clips > Selection after single split
 
Set to "Right Portion"
 
 
 
 
2016/04/22 15:09:27
Anderton
rogeriodec
 
Thank you, but it seems you did not get to test what you're saying, in this file, right?



As I said..."I tried the following with your MIDI file..." Worked for me. However, I should have mentioned something that's often been discussed here in case you missed it: SONAR won't delete something that's not there. The tracks that didn't move started after the space you wanted to eliminate.
 
I just dragged one of your short MIDI files into tracks 9, 10, 11 and 21, but a more obvious way to see if there's nothing in the track is to hold Ctrl and set the Edit Filter to Notes. Then just click anywhere in a track's empty space within the section to be cut.
 
This is an annoyance but once you know about it, you can do the workaround. Hope this helps! 
2016/04/22 15:48:14
robert_e_bone
I am not sure a track will delete a hole and slide over, if there was no midi data present ahead of what you are trying to slide over - in that given track.
 
Could it be that the tracks that didn't slide could have no midi data ahead of them?
 
Bob Bone
 
2016/04/22 16:50:19
Bristol_Jonesey
I think the problem could be, at least according to the posted screenshots, that after the tracks are split, the portions to the right of the split are not selected, hence my post #7.
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