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2016/04/26 21:01:38
John T
All the information you need is in this thread.
 
Honestly, relax and step back from it for the evening. I mean no offence by this, but what's happening is this: you are not grasping a few key concepts, and you are hammering away to no avail. Sleep on it. It's not rocket science, but it *is* a bit counter-intuitive.
 
Most importantly this: abandon how you think it *should* work, and start getting with how it *does* work.
2016/04/26 21:08:12
Elvenking71
John T
Yes, all the information you need is in this thread.
 
Honestly, relax and step back from it for the evening. I mean no offence by this, but what's happening is this: you are not grasping a few key concepts, and you are hammering away to no avail. Sleep on it. It's not rocket science, but it *is* a bit counter-intuitive.
 
Most importantly this: abandon how you think it *should* work, and start getting with how it *does* work.


 What source of information will school me on how it does work. I had two buses side by side. I could route to one and it was panning....switched to the bus I had before (both with no effects) and that bus won't pan. All else the same. Where can I become so enlightened. What I thought I understood, I don't. I am seeing two different behaviors from what appears to be identical buses. They match picture perfect. 
2016/04/26 21:10:35
John T
Elvenking71
 What I thought I understood, I don't.


Again, no offence intended, but I think that's what I just said.

Buses don't pan. Get that out of your head first and foremost.
 
Signals into buses can have a pan position. Buses cannot.
2016/04/26 21:11:39
John T
Have you removed your mono effects from your buses?
 
2016/04/26 21:18:18
Elvenking71
John T
Have you removed your mono effects from your buses?
 




I removed every effect from the track and all buses. It still would not pan. Getting a strange effect where you pan to the one direction and it will pan completely out and the other all the way in. As if it is really only coming through one channel. Yes...the vocal track is mono...okay. But I deleted the bus...added another...then it worked the way I thought it would. Like the bus I am trying to use is screwed up somehow and cannot be recovered. I have to rebuild the send and bus chain...and it looks like that will work.  Threw a reverb on there just to be sure....that panned too...unlike before. 
2016/04/26 21:18:54
Anderton
I created an FX Chain that does what you want by creating a separate panpot for each channel of a stereo track. Then you just leave the balance control centered and do your panning with the FX Chain. See Week 73 in the "Friday's Tip of the Week" thread. 
 
Note that when you deleted the bus and added another, the new bus's default setting may have been different from the bus it replaced, hence giving different results.
2016/04/26 21:37:22
Elvenking71
Are there bus settings that are in visible from the console you? I had the buses side-by-side and they appear exactly identical.
2016/04/26 21:57:59
Anderton
Well, we don't necessarily know what's upstream or downstream from the buses. I'm not discounting there couldn't be some kind of corner case corruption, but I don't recall anyone having this problem before. If it was truly a bug, you think it would show up with some regularity unless people don't use buses.
 
You can always try posting your project using Dropbox or whatever and see if people experience the same issues you do.
2016/04/26 22:09:12
Elvenking71
Well since rebuilding the sends and buses fixed it, I guess I am okay. I'll keep an eye out. Worrisome that I could lose control of a chain though.
2016/04/27 00:21:12
Elvenking71
Yes. I rebuilt the chain and all is as I thought it should work. Something of an anomaly occurred I guess. Unless there are secret settings getting set on my buses that I cannot see on the console.
 
It was the strangest thing I have ever seen and I have used Sonar since 6. Never ever had a problem so I thought for sure it had to be something I didn't see. I think it may have been a genuine fluke of some sort.
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