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2015/11/24 11:17:51
SimpleM
AnthonyMangos
 
 
Once I get the drumbeat, the bass should be like before.  I record direct, so it should be a matter of arming the track and setting the punch in/out points.  Please tell me that's it. 



Yep, that's it.

As long as you have your routing right.  If you are staying "in the box" it should already be set to master.  If you are using a multi input/output interface you might have to route it to the inputs/outputs you want but that is just a simple drop down in the first part of the track view where you arm the recording.



2015/11/25 09:49:46
AnthonyMangos
No luck.  I have the Addictive Drums drum map, no sound.  I closed the file in frustration and re-opened it.  An error message said I was missing a console emulator.  Per cakewalk help and looking at my directory it turns out my computer wasn't set to recognize short and long names of files.  Went into the command prompt and fixed that.  I still get the error message.  Some of the drums will sound in the step sequencer and then they don't.  Set the output for both master and Quadcapture - no difference.
 
I only bought Sonar because I wanted to collaborate with an old college friend - PA9 wasn't good enough for him. 
 
I initially begged off a few months ago and then he e-mailed about a month ago and I decided to do it.  He should have just left well enough alone.
 
I am going to wait the weekend.  After that, I am going to uninstall Sonar and give ProTools a try via their trail period.  If I can't get 20 seconds of recorded professional sounding music within a week, then the problem is me.  If I can, I will switch. 
 
I was up half of the night, and have to drive 8 hours today.    
2015/11/25 10:01:08
kitekrazy1
AnthonyMangos
In response to kitekrazy1 - In the meantime I was trying to get started - and I work during the week. 




Glad you made it back. We know what it's like to drop money on something that doesn't work at first.
2015/11/25 14:03:26
kevinwal
AnthonyMangos
No luck.  I have the Addictive Drums drum map, no sound.  I closed the file in frustration and re-opened it.  An error message said I was missing a console emulator.  Per cakewalk help and looking at my directory it turns out my computer wasn't set to recognize short and long names of files.  Went into the command prompt and fixed that.  I still get the error message.  Some of the drums will sound in the step sequencer and then they don't.  Set the output for both master and Quadcapture - no difference.
 
I only bought Sonar because I wanted to collaborate with an old college friend - PA9 wasn't good enough for him. 
 
I initially begged off a few months ago and then he e-mailed about a month ago and I decided to do it.  He should have just left well enough alone.
 
I am going to wait the weekend.  After that, I am going to uninstall Sonar and give ProTools a try via their trail period.  If I can't get 20 seconds of recorded professional sounding music within a week, then the problem is me.  If I can, I will switch. 
 
I was up half of the night, and have to drive 8 hours today.    


 
Man, it's really painful reading this thread, I feel for ya dude. I imagine everyone posting here would head straight to your place and fix the problem for you if that were possible.
 
For what it's worth, your experience is not at all like mine was when I followed the upgrade path to the X series. In fact, I'd say your experience is not typical at all, so there's something else besides just the new software in play here, I think. As I recall (and I could be wrong), drum maps shouldn't have much to do with whether or not you're generating sound at all, they simply provide a nice labelling of patches for the specific virtual instrument. In fact I've never used drum maps because I hate the UI :)  but I still manage to use both Session Drummer and Addictive Drums just fine.
 
FYI, I've never used any books or videos or anything like that, and I've never used any other DAW so I'm not some digital recording expert just new to Sonar. Once I figured out the ASIO and interface drivers, it was pretty much arm, record, export. Sonar isn't that different from previous versions. Yeah, there are new instruments and new capabilities, but those weren't too hard to figure out. A streamlined UI and window layout model, sure, which can make finding stuff that you know is there a bit time consuming and frustrating initially, but a lot of the basic dialogs are very similar to older versions and the underlying concepts of simply recording and generating output are pretty much the same, imho.
 
All of this is meant to suggest that you might well have some issues with configuration. If I recall correctly, Cake support has been known do a remote troubleshooting session which might help you figure out what is probably a very simple issue in short order.
 
I just can't imagine pro tools being any less complex for you if Sonar has been such a challenge.
 
Best of luck to you, I hope you figure out some way to start making some tunes.
 
Kevin
2015/11/25 14:18:24
Beepster
Honestly I think the drum map thing is most likely what's screwing things up for you. I never use them. I intend to at some point but they are totally not necessary. That's advanced stuff and I've seen lots of issues reported about them.
 
Using them JUST to get kit peice names as a total beginner... sounds like a bad idea. They need to be set up really well with quite a bit of insight. That's pretty much why I've avoided them because I get by well enough as it is for now.
 
I don't use the Step Sequencer either but based on what I know it's pretty easy to get going without screwing with drum maps. You just need to watch the vids about the SS and it'll make sense. No drum maps needed. I cannot help beyond that without reviewing a bunch of material and I'm balls deep in some other really complicated crap at the moment.
 
Just look for the Step Sequencer vids in that SWA series and wherever else you can find instructions on it (and whatever drum sampelrs you are using).
 
Cheers.
2015/11/25 15:46:43
Doktor Avalanche
AnthonyMangos
No luck.  I have the Addictive Drums drum map, no sound.  I closed the file in frustration and re-opened it.  An error message said I was missing a console emulator.  Per cakewalk help and looking at my directory it turns out my computer wasn't set to recognize short and long names of files.  Went into the command prompt and fixed that.  I still get the error message. 


Hmm not 100% sure what this means, was it truncating filenames into the DOS 8.3 format peviously? If so you may be looking at having to do an uninstall and reinstall. Cakewalk support would give the definitive answer... Or just do it anyway.. Kingston is out as well... If there are other qwirks going on you may need to look at a clean os install...
2015/11/25 16:32:16
Beepster
Anthony... there is likely a much simpler solution than what was just posted above ^^^^.
 
I do not recommend blowing up your system to sort this out and Kingston JUST came out and is getting some weird reviews so I don't recommend that just yet either.
 
Watch the vids about the Step Sequencer and read the manual and dump the drum maps for now unless you can get a real handle on what they are doing (and if you do well... you are digging into some advanced shiz).
 
In the SS, IIRC, you just need to use the SS sound/MIDI note picker to map each row to a kit piece (or whatever synth you have routed to the SS). You don't need a drum map for that.
 
If I get a chance I'll review the material myself. I really should bone up on this crap  anyway.
 
Cheers.
2015/11/25 18:02:00
Doktor Avalanche
^^^^
 
I stated "If there are other qwirks going on you may need to look at a clean os install...". Sometimes there comes a time what too much is much crap going on and and OS reinstall is necessary. Looks like this is a quite an old OS install with loads of software on it, what friggin' know what is going on here. Not sure what you mean by "blowing up" but anyway...
 
I am obviously not suggesting this be done straight way.
 
I also suggested he might try uninstall/reinstall/upgrade as he's done something via command prompt (would like to know exactly what it is), and he might check with cakewalk.
 
BTW with JP I experienced crashing with drum maps (linked to single core cpu overload confirmed bug it seems), it didn't gel at all (lots of other weird behaviour), no issue with previous version, have not had time to test Kingston yet, I would hope it is fixed otherwise I'm screwed for yet another month...


You say you have a "simpler solution", please let us know I'm all ears here.
 
2015/11/25 18:17:42
Beepster
Yeah, the simpler solution is learning the ins and outs of the SS and how to trigger things from it (without drum maps). Yanno... like I said.
 
Don't confuse the guy.
2015/11/25 20:28:33
jb101
Beepster
Anthony... there is likely a much simpler solution than what was just posted above ^^^^.
 
Yeah, the simpler solution is learning the ins and outs of the SS and how to trigger things from it (without drum maps). Yanno... like I said.
 
Watch the vids about the Step Sequencer and read the manual and dump the drum maps for now unless you can get a real handle on what they are doing
 
(@Alex) Don't confuse the guy.




 
This is sage advice.
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