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2016/04/21 20:44:41
drewfx1
Search for the word mask on the Wikipedia page for dither. 
2016/04/21 20:47:13
SuperG
drewfx1
Search for the word mask on the Wikipedia page for dither. 




Always somebody gotta be the smart *ss who get's right to the point!
 

2016/04/21 21:06:26
drewfx1
I PM'd John so we can take our discussion off line, but one of the points is that you will find the word "mask" in technical documents discussing dither, but it's used (properly) in the context of explaining why we can hear parts of our signal that are below the noise floor. IOW it's using the word "mask" in a different way than the suggestion that "dither masks the quantization error".
 
So do I really want to have to explain how we can hear some things that aren't masked by the quantization error + dither, but we can't hear the quantization error itself because it's masked by the dither, but not, you know masked masked, just, you know, masked? 
2016/04/21 21:10:57
SuperG
I tried the etymological approach.... it never seems to work... but I keep on plugging...
2016/04/21 21:11:59
John
I guess you miss my point about explaining dither in a quick and easy to understand way to the OP. To be clear its not that big of a deal for me. And in the end you did give the OP the truth. So its over.
2016/04/21 23:08:01
drewfx1
It's all good. I was just trying give the technically correct answer and it is indeed often difficult to simplify things - especially because some people have a bad habit of insisting on correcting everything. 
2016/04/22 11:52:43
Keni
Thanks everybody...
 
Let's stay friendly...
 
I thank you all for straightening me out on this... I was comfortable in believing I had correct understanding and now I have been corrected and understand the facts...
 
That's what is really important. Let's not quibble over exact semantics as the important part is getting the best final product, eh? :-)
 
Many thanks to everyone for helping me understand!
 
Keni
 
2016/04/22 12:23:29
Anderton
Well, the definition of dither is "change one's mind, be of two minds, be indecisive, be undecided." So I think it's highly appropriate that in a thread about dither, we dither about the definition of dithering itself. Or maybe it's not appropriate...I'm not really sure. I can't quite make up my mind about this. At least, I don't think I can...but maybe I should. I'll think about it. 
2016/04/22 13:27:33
Keni
...and a happy Friday to you too Craig!
 
:-)
 
2016/04/22 14:07:45
pwalpwal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dither at the very least. come on
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