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2016/04/03 19:52:07
caminitic
So...I wanna try to do the ole "crappy mono speaker test" to see how my mixes are coming out on alternate source and wanted to see if it was possible via Bluetooth.  I have a cheap speaker I use via my iPhone while I'm showering or whatever and it works great (amazing how perfect professional mixes sound through it...) and I wanted to see if I could add it to my mix arsenal.
 
My Dell PC has no Bluetooth but has a few open USB ports...all I'd need to do is buy a USB dongle and install appropriate drivers, etc to get it to work, correct?  And would I be able to switch between output sources from my main speakers through Quad Capture to Bluetooth speaker on Sonar?
 
Just wanted to see if it was even possible before I bought something online blindly.  Any input is welcomed.  Thanks!
 
2016/04/03 20:01:12
jimkleban
Not sure but you would need some software in WINDOWs to broadcast to the speaker(s).  I do this with UE BOOM but not directly from SONAR. I do a quick render and use WINDOWs to talk to the UE BOOMs.
 
I have never tried to use the UE BOOMs as the output of my MAINs or any other BUSSes in SPLAT.
 
Jim
2016/04/03 20:15:27
MacFurse
Just buy a cheap Bluetooth receiver/transmitter from Ebay. About 10bucks. Plug it into the speaker out on your Dell
and transmit to your Bluetooth speaker. I use these things for lots of little things, like sending music from my phone to my mixing desk when playing live. I can do background music during breaks from where I go and sit, usually at the bar lol!!
2016/04/03 20:49:18
Anderton
Just remember there's a latency issue on the order of 30-40 ms or so.
2016/04/04 01:58:16
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
good idea to check mixes on different speakers, but don't know if any 10$ speaker will be suitable
 
I'd use it only to double check for serious deficiencies (if they can even qualify for that) but don't believe that the old saying about the famous speakers like Auratones ("if it sounds good on them, it will sound good on any speaker") will apply to 10$ bluetooth speaker. the frequency response might just be so bad that the results are more misleading than helpful ...
2016/04/04 08:00:45
Kalle Rantaaho
FreeFlyBertl
good idea to check mixes on different speakers, but don't know if any 10$ speaker will be suitable
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It's the Bluetooth transmitter they talk about that costs 10$.
There's no info about the speaker by the OP except for   "I have a cheap speaker I use via my iPhone while I'm showering or whatever and it works great (amazing how perfect professional mixes sound through it...)".
 
Thinking about getting myself a mono-test-crappy-speaker myself. In addition to my home stereo and car system my main transportability test takes place in a 20 year old boom box.
2016/04/04 11:04:17
caminitic
Cool.  Thanks for the replies everyone.
 
So...I can buy cheap USB dongle transmitter...which I assume comes with installation software/drivers...and Sonar would be able to find alternate output for me to switch to (i.e. instead of my Master Bus going to Quad Capture 1/2, I can switch it to "Bluetooth speaker"?)
 
I understand the latency but am only considering this setup to listen to mixes in progress to check frequency build up and mono compatibility without having to do what I currently do...bounce down...email to myself...check on iPhone speaker or Bluetooth speaker from the phone.
2016/04/04 11:30:04
daveny5
Why don't you just send an MP3 or an AIFF to your iPhone? Then you don't need any additional equipment.
2016/04/04 11:50:30
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
caminitic
So...I can buy cheap USB dongle transmitter...which I assume comes with installation software/drivers...and Sonar would be able to find alternate output for me to switch to (i.e. instead of my Master Bus going to Quad Capture 1/2, I can switch it to "Bluetooth speaker"?)
 



Since you probably run the Quad Capture on ASIO driver, you have a "problem" i.e. you can only have one active ASIO device at a time. So even if you get ASIO drivers for a USB dongle (which I don't know if they exist), you would still have to deactivate the Quad Capture in the audio pref and activate the bluetooth dongle ... which is too much hassle (i.e. not like simply routing it in Sonar).
 
Why don't you use the extra output on the Quad Capture (COAX OUT 3/4) - if you can connect your speakers to that you can simply re-route the master bus in sonar
2016/04/04 11:53:58
caminitic
Yeah I would if my speaker had an actual input but it's solely bluetooth.
 
And I was just trying to save time from bouncing down, emailing to myself, etc.  Sounds like I may be creating a separate issue...lol
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