williamcopper

Anderton
 
Windows 7 does not have multi-client MIDI, which was introduced in Windows 10. Realistically, it's not Microsoft's fault you choose not to avail yourself of a solution. 

Then why is it that on Windows 7, Vegas Pro is quiet and calm about this issue, while Sonar gives me the same message every 60 seconds on the minute? 

Assuming what everyone has posted is true and I will assume that it is until proven otherwise, through your own logic Vegas Pro must be assigned the status of low standards in programming. :-) I freely admit I have never used it.

williamcopper
As to focus: here's a screen shot, sorry it's a big image, three screens.   Can you tell, Craig, which window has focus, and if it's the track view, upper left, which track has focus?    No. 

The Piano Roll does, change your visual settings in Windows and get rid of the transparency...

Ken I view Mr. Copper's posts as a depository of hyperbole too. I was thinking as I read through his posts here how antagonistic they were. I also felt I was being insulted by the way he proclaims poor programing. After all I use the darn problem. I don't see the problems he seems to see. I'm glad Craig countered every point he made because it shows not poor programing but a poor user with no apparent ability to learn how to use the program. Something we already know. 
 
I also agree for Mr. copper a different program or even a Mac might prove effective for him. Clearly a Windows based DAW is not compatible with his work flow. I would like not to have to read how awful Sonar is when ever he posts. It wares on one.  
 
There are real issues with Sonar that need to be fixed in the meantime his posts just clog up the forum with a bunch of non issues. True he may have found a problem once or twice but generally his posts are due to a severe lack of knowledge.
 
This is a pleasant place to help each other because we respect the choice each made in getting Sonar. It is something of a slap to all members to continue to bash relentlessly a program we have chosen for our use above so many others.       

williamcopper
 
 
I know, I know .. sounds like I'm just hitting out at CW. 

Not to me. Honestly, it sounds like you think everything sucks. Glass quarter full at best.

williamcopper

Anderton
When I close a folder, it stays wherever it was. Your description of what you are doing is sufficiently opaque I have no idea how to reproduce your issue, which means I can't tell you how to solve it. Meanwhile, the rest of your problems are generally attributable to a lack of knowledge.

 
Are you really sure?    Or rather, yes, what you say is true, the FOLDER stays where it was.  But the SCREEN pops so that the first track is at the top, and the FOLDER, down there at #188 is still down there.  The problem is, you have to scroll to get back to it. 

The screen doesn't scroll either. Maybe it's because I don't have 188 tracks, but I do have more than will fit on the screen. I can't do anything with such vague descriptions, you need to provide steps to reproduce.
 

williamcopper

Anderton
Yes, it does. Maybe you're not aware that like Sound Forge, SONAR maintains a recent list of files...

sigh.  re-read what I said:  it's the DIRECTORY structure that Sonar flubs on. 

 
Re-read what you wrote: "Does sonar remember where the last entry was, the way Sound Forge does?"
 
Yes, it does. Since you didn't specify what from the directory structure you wanted remembered, but did specifically mention "where the last entry was," I answered your question as best I could given your lack of specificity. I had to take a guess at what you meant by "entry," and I assumed that meant project, since it seems what you would want is being able to recall recent projects.
 
You could simply avoid any problems completely by not being so sloppy in the way you organize your work, which is your responsibility.
 

John
Ken I view Mr. Copper's posts as a depository of hyperbole too. I was thinking as I read through his posts here how antagonistic they were. I also felt I was being insulted by the way he proclaims poor programing. After all I use the darn problem. I don't see the problems he seems to see. I'm glad Craig countered every point he made because it shows not poor programing but a poor user with no apparent ability to learn how to use the program. Something we already know. 
 
I also agree for Mr. copper a different program or even a Mac might prove effective for him. Clearly a Windows based DAW is not compatible with his work flow. I would like not to have to read how awful Sonar is when ever he posts. It wares on one.  
 
There are real issues with Sonar that need to be fixed in the meantime his posts just clog up the forum with a bunch of non issues. True he may have found a problem once or twice but generally his posts are due to a severe lack of knowledge.
 
This is a pleasant place to help each other because we respect the choice each made in getting Sonar. It is something of a slap to all members to continue to bash relentlessly a program we have chosen for our use above so many others.       

I had a totally different post ready but decided I would not stoop to those levels. But I concur with this being a great place IF you WANT HELP, or help someone. But some I do not bother to help / check status of problems anymore. It's a shame...

williamcopper

Anderton
 
I can't test this out right now to confirm 100%, but IIRC if you don't want to do that, uncheck "Enable MIDI Output," and uncheck "Ask This Every Time." Now your synthesizer will open up without the dialog box and without MIDI output enabled. If you want to change those defaults, open Insert Synth Options and make your changes (like "All Stereo Outputs" or whatever), then open your instrument. Now you'll have all stereo outputs, and still no MIDI Output enabled.
 

You might want to test this out.   Nope, doesn't work.

What doesn't work? Is following my steps not showing what I'm seeing? Is the MIDI output still enabled even when Preferences shows that it isn't? I need to find an instrument with MIDI out so I can check further.

williamcopper

Anderton
 
Windows 7 does not have multi-client MIDI, which was introduced in Windows 10. Realistically, it's not Microsoft's fault you choose not to avail yourself of a solution. 

Then why is it that on Windows 7, Vegas Pro is quiet and calm about this issue, while Sonar gives me the same message every 60 seconds on the minute? 

I have Vegas Pro and I have SONAR. Provide steps to reproduce. Of course if Vegas has already grabbed the ports, then SONAR is going to give you an error message. 
 
I wish you would be more interested in finding solutions than being "right." I realize you've said you hardly ever make mistakes, but the reality is you make a lot of them, and we need to separate out what is truly a SONAR problem vs. what is a lack of understanding. It is not possible to file a bug report without indicating the circumstances under which the "bug" occurs. Which program did you open first? What is Device Manager showing for your MIDI ports? Does your interface have multiple ports or just the usual 1-16 channels?

I think you're wasting your time Craig. If William actually wanted help with a problem, he'd ask for it, I'm sure.