• SONAR
  • Selecting/Focus: My Pain
2015/12/12 07:06:08
cool
New Sonar is a beautiful DAW, but there are some things, that ruin my workflow. Although they are not fatal bugs, they cause waste of time and effort.

1. Track Focus.
The only thing that signals a focus on the track in Sonar Platinum - highlighted track name. Check the screenshots:

Sonar X2


focused track highlighted - check (it could be even more contrast, I know),
click ANY area of the track to focus - check.

Sonar Platinum.


focused track highlighted - no, only name
click ANY area of the track to focus - no. Now FX Bin doesn't help here, and I need to aim at the desired area. You know how many times I turned the knobs on a wrong ProChannel EQ? I do it all the time...

For example. Reaper, Cubase track highlighting. Looks perfect to me:
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2. Clip deleting by Del key doesn't delete the clip, but delets a plugin in a FX Bin. Why for G's sake should it do that?
This problem is easy to reproduce. After any operations in the FX Bin, select any clip(s) by rignt mouse button lasso (Smart Tool) and press Del on your keyboard. Voila.
Guess how many times I unsuccessfully tried to delete the clip, and then from my memory I tried to restore the order and settings of plug-ins? I do it all the time...

I really need these things fixed. Is there a chance to find like-minded people here?
2015/12/12 07:21:27
rebel007
There have been a couple of posts over the last few years regarding this issue, it seems it could be one of the improvements, especially to those users that have eyesight issues. There is a skin available that possibly another forum member could point you to, that I believe gives great color and contrast options.
2015/12/12 21:53:41
stevec
Good suggestion... It's Panu's Sonarmods located here: http://www.sonarmods.com/forum/index.php
 
2015/12/12 23:13:36
Anderton
cool
2. Clip deleting by Del key doesn't delete the clip, but delets a plugin in a FX Bin. Why for G's sake should it do that?
This problem is easy to reproduce. After any operations in the FX Bin, select any clip(s) by rignt mouse button lasso (Smart Tool) and press Del on your keyboard. Voila.



This has got to be a bug, I can't imagine any reason why this would be done on purpose. Probably worth submitting a bug report. I was able to reproduce what you describe, so I'm sure Cakewalk could.
2015/12/13 14:10:25
Bristol_Jonesey
Yes, I see this behaviour as well, deffo a bug
2015/12/14 00:27:40
cool
Thank you, guys!
 
Anyone can create a bug report?
I can not use bug report form - my DAWs and synths not listed in dropdown menu...
 

2015/12/14 01:39:49
brundlefly
FWIW, Platinum still shows the lighter gray for the focused track header here - probably because I imported my color scheme from X2 to get custom clip background colors. You could do the same.
2015/12/14 10:59:29
icontakt
If you have no need to colorize the entire strip, disable the "Show strip colors" option in Edit > Preferences > Customization > Colors. Disabling it will enable the lighter gray for the focused track.
 
I've also encountered #2 several times in the past, but never thought it was a bug.
2015/12/14 13:50:03
cool
icontakt
If you have no need to colorize the entire strip, disable the "Show strip colors" option in Edit > Preferences > Customization > Colors. Disabling it will enable the lighter gray for the focused track.



It's amasing! Thank you very much!
Works perfect to me:


 
About an issue #2: I will try to send a bug report, when a bug report form will start to work again.
2015/12/14 14:22:05
Beepster
1) I love the fact the track name changes colors now to indicate an "In Focus Track" but am also disappointed that the Track Control Pane area no longer changes shades to indicate the same. I would definitely like that feature back AND have it be more of a pronounced shade difference by default (or independently adjustable perhaps directly in Track View).
 
2) "2. Clip deleting by Del key doesn't delete the clip, but delets a plugin in a FX Bin. Why for G's sake should it do that?
This problem is easy to reproduce. After any operations in the FX Bin, select any clip(s) by rignt mouse button lasso (Smart Tool) and press Del on your keyboard. Voila.
Guess how many times I unsuccessfully tried to delete the clip, and then from my memory I tried to restore the order and settings of plug-ins? I do it all the time...

I really need these things fixed. Is there a chance to find like-minded people here?"
 
I tested this in multiple ways.
 
The ONLY way I could make it manifest after an immediate selection of the clip was with a lasso select of the clip.
 
What I mean by that is I tried...
 
Inserting the effect into the FX bin and/or manipulating paramaters in the bin as describe then selecting the clip (on the same track) using a left click. Hitting delete deleted the clip, not the effect.
 
Because this is how I usually work it is why I never noticed the issue you refer to (and what made me check it out).
 
If I selected the clip (in any way) and THEN mess with the effect AND with the clip still selected then hit the Delete key the Effect was removed but and the clip remained.
 
This may be construed as desirable behavior because the user has touched the effect in the bin last and hitting Delete would maybe indicate that the user wanted to delete the plug entirely. Not sure I would want that but it kind of makes sense.
 
BUT when inserting/futzing with the plug THEN lassoing the clip THEN hitting delete that most definitely removes the plug and not the clip.
 
This is absolutely undesirable behavior. Most people wouldn't be using Lasso to select clips in most scenarios I'd imagine but if they did, after futzing with an effect, that would definitely be problematic.
 
I am not sure how long this bug has been around. I am currently on Foxboro.
 
I recommend separating that aspect of your post, into a new thread, for others to confirm (which we have here) and creating a Problem Report or posting it on its own in the Problem Report sub forum with a link to this thread as confirmation.
 
A proper report would be great though if you have the time (or if someone else has the time).
 
Thanks for reporting.
 
I will be careful not to do this in the future.
 
BTW a good workaround/way to watch for this problem is a "Delete Clip" action is usually pretty quick. A "Delete Plug" action usually takes a little longer and incurs the windows "Spinny Wheel" so watch out for that.
 
The full workaround if you must use lasso after touching an effect in the Bin/Rack would be NOT use lasso select but instead click select the clips. I actually just tried deselecting the lasso selected clip after an FX bin action and then reselecting it using the lasso and it STILL deleted the effect... so that's defintiely sucky.
 
Just more info/testing/confirmation/workarounds.
 
Cheers.
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