artturner
We pay for rolling updates and look forward to what will be fixed next, then discover that the bakers have used their time to produce updates that few people seemed to need. They then spend time explaining why this is what we should have wanted all along.

I was happy to see the list of bugs fixed in this update.  As long as each update has such a list, the update is worth it to me.  For the rest... a nice but half-finished insert track dialog and an unsolicited add-on.  Not much to get excited about.  Imagine if Cakewalk were to say "We don't have much this time around, what with the Christmas holidays and such, but in the meantime here's the current state of the work on the Insert button and for those that might be interested, we're including an optional portal to LANDR that we feel has potential.  And know that we are currently hard at work on song section arranging."  I'd have nothing to say but thank you.

I said earlier today that I wasn't bothered one way or the other about the LANDR inclusion. What a fool I was.
 
I've just switched on the news, to see that the sky has fallen in, clocks around the world are striking thirteen, and a two-headed goat has been born. It is, it turns out, the end of days. And all experts agree, it was brought about by the inclusion of an app in the latest version of Sonar that doesn't even run if you don't ask it to.
 
Pray to your gods, and smoke em if you got em.

LANDR is an option.  Option (definition) = a thing that is or may be chosen.  In this case a thing that is or may be used.  I'm curious to know who absolutely uses EVERYTHING that is offered in Cakewalk, absolutely EVERYTHING???
 
OK, I know, I just need to stopping reading this thread.

Time to MAKE music...
 

On what basis is it being determine that this is an open loop system and that the parameters in the mastering tools are not being set based on machine learning. I really enjoy the intellectual discourse on this forum but sometimes this place pushes subjectivity to the extreme. 

Beeps,
 
For the way you work, you actually get what you want.
 
You don't use CCC (IIRC) and you download the installer from your store account.
 
When you run that installer you have the verbose option. 
 
In the verbose option DO NOT check LANDR.
 
Simples.
 
Beeps stays with Cakewalk. YAY!!!!
 
 

Kamikaze
I installed a couple of days ago. I'm going to do a fresh reset and install of my System at sometime soon. If it's not available in CCC as a separate option by then. I won't really be able to trust CCC with every update. 
 
Please make these things optional

Tell CCC that you want the verbose option.
 
Simples.

if you simply take Landr for what it is, its not as bad as some of you may think it is.
its not a professional mastering engineer, but it is a decent tool to achieve pretty good results.
I used it and I was actually kind of impressed.
 
like I said, its not joe mastering...its not Bob Rock.. but it is/and will be a useful to some who need a quick master and don't need it to be professionally mastered yet.
 
for all you mastering engineers out there, don't worry, no one will be taking food out of your mouth.
in my opinion, someone who uses Landr is not the same person who is willing to spend hundreds on mastering.
when a professional result is imperative, people will still use an engineer.

irvin... you are absolutely NOT helping!!!
 
Your nonsense is burying the simple, legitimate problem of the app being forced into the installer.
 
If you have a problem with LANDR then don't freaking use it!!!
 
Some of us are trying to preserve the integrity of the installers and our systems and with your constant speculation about the aspects that can be COMPLETELY avoided you are making it easy for those who can actually do something about the REAL issue to dismiss it entirely.
 
I don't give a crap if it sends peoples mixes through a rusty coffee can. If that's useful to someone then it's a useful tool to that person and has value.
 
Stop burying the real discussion with this crap. It's almost like you are here to make those with real concerns sound like lunatics.
 
Put into perspective...
 
1) I don't want some weird, unknown, useless third party thing installed on my system or have to go out of my way every month to avoid it!   =  Legit problem
 
2) There is this online service that some people like and some don't and I totally don't have to use or even acknowledge. I'M FREAKING OUT!!!!  =  whargarble!!!
 
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3) We're the people implementing this. Person 2 is being completely irrational so we can safely dismiss and ignore Person 1 because obviously they are completely irrational as well because reasons and stuff.

Come on the man is appalled. That's a serious condition. Look it up.
 
amk

maybe the op could edit the first post to summarise the, er, issues?