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  • The LANDR Thread (p.22)
2016/02/27 16:33:19
Beepster
Good info, Grem. Thanks.
 
Seems to me if there were any kind of user input component to their algorithms anyone who wanted to game it would have to at the very least be paying customers (which would be prohibitively expensive to do just for "teh lulz").
 
The human reach out from the company to advise on how to provide more suitable source material to feed the service is interesting though. Hard to interpret what's going on there.
 
Like is there a crew of folks sitting there watching these tracks come through the system then flagging/listening to/analysing specific items then replying back to the user with recommendations?
 
Not asking you specifically. Just contemplating what that's all about. I think I'd be a little shy about bouncing my cruddy/weirdo random experiments off them if an actual human might be on the other side actually listening to them. HA!
 
Of course real mastering engineers would do exactly that and interact with the mix engineer/artist so definitely... that's interesting and I guess... cool? Creepy? Purple?
 
Cheers.
2016/02/27 16:58:24
SvenArne
I hafta say I was super skeptical when Landr came upon the stage last year or two years ago or whenever it was. But I was i kind of. sort of, intrigued when CDbaby started pushing it. When it was promoted in the Newburyport update, I was persuaded to actually try it because, believe it or not, I put a lot of trust in Cakewalk and their choice in third-party collaborators...
2016/02/27 17:08:03
tenfoot
I jumped right in and installed the new update,  as I do every month,  before I knew anything of the dreaded presence of Landr. Although like many of us I was a little surprised and unhappy to find it there,  I have now been working in the studio all day and half the night,  all the while successfully ignoring it completely.  Shockingly,  there have been no ill effects whatsoever.
 
Methinks we all worry too much about too little. Perhaps we should smile more:) 
2016/02/27 17:18:55
bapu
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
There are many people I know who are top notch musicians but rarely frequent a user forum let alone post. 



Thank God. We luddites would just want to drool all over them.
2016/02/27 17:30:00
Beepster
tenfoot
I jumped right in and installed the new update,  as I do every month,  before I knew anything of the dreaded presence of Landr. Although like many of us I was a little surprised and unhappy to find it there,  I have now been working in the studio all day and half the night,  all the while successfully ignoring it completely.  Shockingly,  there have been no ill effects whatsoever.
 
Methinks we all worry too much about too little. Perhaps we should smile more:) 




Sure, but...
 
It needs to be removed from the main installer.
 
The way it was snuck in was not cool.
 
I wish I could smile more but that seems to invite a kick in the teeth when you ain't lookin' from the most unlikely of boots.
 
Once Cake removes it from the main installer I'll consider contemplating maybe a cautious glimmer of a grin.
 
I do not promise teeth will be exposed in said grin.
 
I have faith Cake will do the right thing in the end.
2016/02/27 17:35:13
tenfoot
Beepster
tenfoot
I jumped right in and installed the new update,  as I do every month,  before I knew anything of the dreaded presence of Landr. Although like many of us I was a little surprised and unhappy to find it there,  I have now been working in the studio all day and half the night,  all the while successfully ignoring it completely.  Shockingly,  there have been no ill effects whatsoever.
 
Methinks we all worry too much about too little. Perhaps we should smile more:) 




Sure, but...
 
It needs to be removed from the main installer.
 
The way it was snuck in was not cool.
 
I wish I could smile more but that seems to invite a kick in the teeth when you ain't lookin' from the most unlikely of boots.
 
Once Cake removes it from the main installer I'll consider contemplating maybe a cautious glimmer of a grin.
 
I do not promise teeth will be exposed in said grin.
 
I have faith Cake will do the right thing in the end.


Haha -  fair enough beeps. Some cautious celebration some time soon then!  Cakewalk certainly do have a history of doing the right thing. 
2016/02/27 17:45:37
Grem
bapu
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
There are many people I know who are top notch musicians but rarely frequent a user forum let alone post. 



Thank God. We luddites would just want to drool all over them.




Busted a gut on that one!!
2016/02/27 17:53:37
Beepster
I also resent the sentiment that people who frequent forums (and most specifically this forum) are somehow less able or likely to make rational decisions or observations about the products they use.
 
That would have been less insulting if I hadn't seen that sentiment expressed here before... and usually when defending something that is at best a "murky" position and at worst entirely indefensible.
 
I would counter such assertions that those who completely ignore the forum(s) do not necessarily have all the facts at their disposal.
 
It comes across like a cop out when things get a little rough.
 
I love ya, lads and I certainly don't envy you having to suffer the trolls and irrational malcontents (we don't like them either) but this place is of course a massive font of extremely cost effective market research and likely redirects MOUNTAINS of support queries away from your own servers/phone lines.
 
If you called us spazzes and weirdos... that I would accept. Not worth listening to? Nuh uh.
 
Sorry... that one bugged me when it was posted (and does every time) but I ignored it. Since it was brought up again... well there ya go.
 
I will now go be spazzy and weird somewhere else.
 
;-)
2016/02/27 18:07:50
John T
Beepster
I also resent the sentiment that people who frequent forums (and most specifically this forum) are somehow less able or likely to make rational decisions or observations about the products they use.
 

I don't think anyone's saying that.
2016/02/27 18:40:45
Beepster
John T
Beepster
I also resent the sentiment that people who frequent forums (and most specifically this forum) are somehow less able or likely to make rational decisions or observations about the products they use.
 

I don't think anyone's saying that.




That's pretty much what was being said/implied. I'd find the direct quotes but apparently Firefox decided to crash and munch almost a couple dozen open tabs so now I've got to manually find everything I had open.
 
And it's really not worth getting into an argument over because it was likely said out of frustration due to the actual trolls. It is some pretty broad brush stuff though and I found it irksome.
 
Now off to hunt down all the crap I was previously looking at. Ugh.
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