JoseC.

jb101
Don't worry, Steve, he is back again, with yet another alternate login.

He'll pop in here soon, no doubt.

At first I had read "He'll poop in here soon"...

Seems to describe the contributions so far.

All of these songs were mastered by LANDR at the high setting.   These are mp3s however converted from LANDR 44.1/16 bit wavs:
http://allenlind.com/BB/

Wow stxx, you went all out.

I must say, I've been enjoying the ease of Landr. It is a little habit forming.

gswitz
I must say, I've been enjoying the ease of Landr. It is a little habit forming.

Too easy maybe ?  Aren't we running the risk of homogenizing everything ?  It's a bit like sample libraries.  If everyone uses the same samples, we all end up sounding the same.  I just noticed that with a bit of an accent you can get landr to sound like launder.  I'm sure it won't be long before people will recognise the sound of a landr'ed song, if we're not there already.

Here's an example of one of my original songs that I have done a LANDR conversion on ...
 
FWIW, I'm very happy with the LANDR conversion that took place on my song . I used the same mix for both files.
( a 24 bit undithered wave / mix )
 
The non LANDR version of my song was uploaded as an MP3 at 192 a number of years ago .
 
All seems fair right ?
 
LANDR low MP3 at 192
 
https://soundcloud.com/gu...friend-to-me-landr-low
 
non LANDR
 
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=427899&songID=3313414
 
all the best ,
 
Kenny

Paul P

gswitz
I must say, I've been enjoying the ease of Landr. It is a little habit forming.

Too easy maybe ?  Aren't we running the risk of homogenizing everything ?  It's a bit like sample libraries.  If everyone uses the same samples, we all end up sounding the same.

I too have recognized the sound of Reason drum patterns in car commercials . However I'm not sure mastering is the same thing, because samples are recognizable, whereas a particular approach to mastering probably isn't. 
 
Then again, it's only because there has been a certain "standardization" of sound that something like LANDR is even possible. There are standards for dynamic range, so presumably, LANDR abides by those standards. As to EQ, the "smile" curve has been a fact of life for decades, and it probably isn't going to go away any time soon.
 
It's really interesting to play original CDs from the 80s, the 90s, and today. The "style" of mastering has changed a lot over the years. It's almost like Low = 80s, Medium = 90s, High = 2000s.

Anderton

Paul P

gswitz
I must say, I've been enjoying the ease of Landr. It is a little habit forming.

Too easy maybe ?  Aren't we running the risk of homogenizing everything ?  It's a bit like sample libraries.  If everyone uses the same samples, we all end up sounding the same.

I too have recognized the sound of Reason drum patterns in car commercials . However I'm not sure mastering is the same thing, because samples are recognizable, whereas a particular approach to mastering probably isn't. 
 
Then again, it's only because there has been a certain "standardization" of sound that something like LANDR is even possible. There are standards for dynamic range, so presumably, LANDR abides by those standards. As to EQ, the "smile" curve has been a fact of life for decades, and it probably isn't going to go away any time soon.
 
It's really interesting to play original CDs from the 80s, the 90s, and today. The "style" of mastering has changed a lot over the years. It's almost like Low = 80s, Medium = 90s, High = 2000s.

paul I hear what your saying. for many years ive had debates with other musicians about sample librarys and are they actual musicians or armchair producers <<<--that one seems to blow up a lot of smoke and get people going   truth is, yes they are musicians.
but I agree with Craig where a sample and a mixing application are really 2 different things.
ive saved my thoughts on Landr because I don't think its worth adding to the discussions here as it seems to be a very sensitive one at that.
all I can say is i think some are getting a little carried away. (i love the passion don't get me wrong)
but if i need a pro master, i will still pay an engineer to master it for me.
but with that also being said, i think Landr does a pretty good job for what it does.
heres the thing/ = its another option.
and we could all use more options in sonar, in life...in general.
some of us will make the choice to use it, some of us wont.
either way, its all good. we are still musicians

chuckebaby
for many years ive had debates with other musicians about sample librarys and are they actual musicians or armchair producers <<<--that one seems to blow up a lot of smoke and get people going   truth is, yes they are musicians.

I was around when samplers first appeared, and got into a heated discussion with someone who said they were going to  put musicians out of business. I said "You do you think plays them - accountants?" 

kennywtelejazz
Here's an example of one of my original songs that I have done a LANDR conversion on ...
 
FWIW, I'm very happy with the LANDR conversion that took place on my song . I used the same mix for both files.
( a 24 bit undithered wave / mix )
 
The non LANDR version of my song was uploaded as an MP3 at 192 a number of years ago .
 
All seems fair right ?
 
LANDR low MP3 at 192
 
https://soundcloud.com/gu...friend-to-me-landr-low
 
non LANDR
 
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=427899&songID=3313414
 
all the best ,
 
Kenny

Hey Kenny, maybe you could further the debate on this topic. 
 
There are several Mastering Templates in the Sonar Start Screen.  I think they were set up by Dan Gonzales?  I have tried them, and they are very interesting. 
 
Do you suppose you could run your file through one of those?   I would bet you might find one just as good as LANDR.
 
I think everybody should try them out.  I mean if you're going to try LANDR, why not try what's already included, and it's FREE, plus, you can actually make a few tweaks yourself.
 
Scroll to page 10 in the ezine
 
http://static.cakewalk.com/cakewalk/products/sonar/release_notes/Welcome_to_the_SONAR_Hokpinton_Update.pdf
 
Jesse Q. Screed
 

Jesse Screed
 
There are several Mastering Templates in the Sonar Start Screen.  I think they were set up by Dan Gonzales?  I have tried them, and they are very interesting. 
 
Do you suppose you could run your file through one of those?   I would bet you might find one just as good as LANDR.

 Hey Jesse.  I think this test is essentially flawed.  Finding a preset that sounds as good as Landr after the event is a bit like saying you could invent the hovercar if only you had one to copy from.  The point is that LANDR made it sound good without reference.  
 
A more significant test would be to do your own master in the Sonar presets first,  then send the original file to Landr for mastering and see which sounds better.