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2016/03/05 18:29:36
Leee
I haven't tried LANDR since the first days it was introduced into Sonar.  Has the upload speed of song files gotten any better?  For me that was the biggest turnoff of using this software.  It took me (and others) over 10 to 12 minutes (some longer) to upload a short 3 minute song.
If it hasn't gotten any faster, the description in the updates section should not use this as the first sentence:
"LANDR is integrated directly into SONAR allowing you to master your tracks instantly."
And then took even longer to process the song.  For me there was nothing INSTANT about it.

I'm starting to read good things about LANDR, so hopefully they have fixed the speed problem.
 
2016/03/05 18:48:51
artturner
Leee
I'm starting to read good things about LANDR, so hopefully they have fixed the speed problem.

Not to discount your problem at all, but it has always been very fast for me, less than a minute for upload and processing. (But then again, I have a gigabit connection).
2016/03/05 18:50:19
panup
> "LANDR is integrated directly into SONAR allowing you to master your tracks instantly."
 
Landr's 'instant' is anything between 5 minutes and 3 hours.
Last week it was very slow but now it's fast again.
 
I use it from Europe.
2016/03/05 19:04:22
kennywtelejazz
Uploading a 5 min + 32 bit wave file from a SONAR LANDR export took about 15 min's yesterday ..
I don't consider that unreasonable considering it was done over a WiFi connection .
 
Kenny
2016/03/05 19:31:37
Sycraft
I am going to guess that in most people's cases, upload speed is the issue. There are a lot of asymmetric Internet connections in the world and on those upload tends to be a lot less than download. Also you are going to be uploading an uncompressed WAV to them and not just an uncompressed file, but a high bit size one at that. So you have to toss a bit of math at how long it will take: A 44.1kHz, 32-bit uncompressed stereo audio file is 345KB/sec or about 20.2MB/min. Well, have a look at your Internet upload speed. In most cases, it is probably in the realm of 1-10mbps. However note that is bits, not bytes per second and also it gets more confusing because computers abuse the metric prefixes like mega sometimes using it to mean the proper 10^6, and sometimes meaning 2^20.
 
Long and the short of it is that if you have a 10mbps upload you will see an effective rate of around 1MB/sec, give or take (depends on network load, kind of connection and a ton of other things). At 1mbps, it is about 10 seconds per MB. So if you have a 3 minute song, and a 2mbps connection you are looking at around 5 minutes to upload to file to them, before they start processing assuming everything is working well.
 
So just keep that kind of thing in mind when you are looking at times. Make sure to account for the transfer time it is going to take, unless you have a really fast connection.
 
Also note that if you are on WiFi, that can slow things WAAAAY down. A full discussion of WiFi speeds would be a massive post but suffice to say it is always a lot slower than the data rate it shows because of overhead, and on older standards is often slower than modern Internet connections.
2016/03/06 19:00:18
backwoods
I haven't tried LANDR yet or even visited the website but I have noticed that I am getting LANDR ads in the margins when I go to youtube and some other websites too. Conincidence? Maybe they were appearing before this latest update but I don't think so.
2016/03/06 19:06:18
Anderton
Google Adsense.
backwoods
I haven't tried LANDR yet or even visited the website but I have noticed that I am getting LANDR ads in the margins when I go to youtube and some other websites too. Conincidence? Maybe they were appearing before this latest update but I don't think so.



Sounds like Google AdSense
2016/03/06 19:08:59
backwoods
Probably you're right Craig. Maybe it knows people who come here have been looking at LANDR and they know I visit here often and so.... makes more sense than my paranoid theory!
2016/03/06 19:13:12
Anderton
I had to pick up dog food for a sick friend so I searched on Petco to find the nearest location. From then on I got served ads for leashes, dog sweaters, obedience classes, etc. etc. I hated AdSense when it was on Harmony Central. We stopped using it when we were acquired by Gibson.
2016/03/06 21:22:48
chuckebaby
Anderton
Google Adsense.
backwoods
I haven't tried LANDR yet or even visited the website but I have noticed that I am getting LANDR ads in the margins when I go to youtube and some other websites too. Conincidence? Maybe they were appearing before this latest update but I don't think so.



Sounds like Google AdSense


I was just going to say the same thing, I search C List looking for odd gear often, every time I search for it and click something like sweetwater, ebay,.exc, to research the gear, it ends up in my yahoo mail adds.
I believe InPrivate browsing will prevent that
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