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2016/03/11 07:51:12
stevec
stxx
...The intelligence, while somewhat generic, is build ion and while it doesn;t give you the total professional result of Bob Katz, you get a VERY consistent very good result based on many many computed decisions and based on much "previous experience".   This thread should end  as there will always be people that are aftraid or who will resist new technology and think a human is always better but there is a lot of mediocrity in the world, and mastering is no exception. 



That made me wonder...    How many SONAR users (or DAW users in general), on this thread or otherwise, are able to consistently produce results equal to Bob Katz?    I don't think LANDR is unique in this respect. 
 
2016/03/11 22:01:16
gswitz
https://youtu.be/jyaahCldgeI
 
I made a video comparing LANDR MP3 track with my own MP3 track with the levels set comparably.
 
Audio quality of youtube may be insufficient, but I tried.
2016/03/12 04:15:05
jb101
stevec
stxx
...The intelligence, while somewhat generic, is build ion and while it doesn;t give you the total professional result of Bob Katz, you get a VERY consistent very good result based on many many computed decisions and based on much "previous experience".   This thread should end  as there will always be people that are aftraid or who will resist new technology and think a human is always better but there is a lot of mediocrity in the world, and mastering is no exception. 



That made me wonder...    How many SONAR users (or DAW users in general), on this thread or otherwise, are able to consistently produce results equal to Bob Katz?    I don't think LANDR is unique in this respect. 
 




This made me chuckle.  Thanks for that, Steve.
2016/03/15 11:32:04
kzmaier
Now I see LANDR in the windows explorer:(  So it's not just integrated in Sonar but windows as well.  The reality sets in.  If I don't use the service, is there a security concern, since using it would also update the program?  
 
I would have made the LANDR service a web service.  Log into your LANDR acct, upload your audio, and get your master.  Bing bang boom?  Everything done in a browser.  Less muss and fuss.  Just my 2 cents.
2016/03/15 12:12:09
Zargg
kzmaier
Now I see LANDR in the windows explorer:(  So it's not just integrated in Sonar but windows as well.  The reality sets in.  If I don't use the service, is there a security concern, since using it would also update the program?  
 
I would have made the LANDR service a web service.  Log into your LANDR acct, upload your audio, and get your master.  Bing bang boom?  Everything done in a browser.  Less muss and fuss.  Just my 2 cents.


I believe that it is the Export (to LANDR) folder for SONAR.
All the best.
2016/03/15 20:45:07
artturner
kzmaier
Now I see LANDR in the windows explorer:(  So it's not just integrated in Sonar but windows as well.  The reality sets in.  If I don't use the service, is there a security concern, since using it would also update the program?  
 
I would have made the LANDR service a web service.  Log into your LANDR acct, upload your audio, and get your master.  Bing bang boom?  Everything done in a browser.  Less muss and fuss.  Just my 2 cents.


There is a web app AND a desktop app. Actually I find the desktop app easier and quicker to use than the web app.
2016/03/16 06:58:43
ebibault51
I've tried LANDR (free) on 2 mixes. I chose the highest level of mastering. Here are the + and the - :
 
+
After reading some posts here, I was expecting an awful result. It's not the case. I don't feel betrayed, my work remains my work...
I think that LANDR cut some bass frequencies and it was right. My mix was too bass-heavy. The final result is good.
 
-
LANDR maybe added too much brilliance to the sound. Maybe just a question of taste. And that can be fixed we further equalization.
It was difficult to achieve the process, because the server sometimes seemed not to respond.
There are not many settings.
There are no advices, except when your file has not a big headroom, it is refused. That's what I would actually expect: after uploading, LANDR would tell me the potential problems and then I could master or return to my mix to improve it before. For example I never know if my mix has enough bass (a good idea for a new SONAR plugin?), I compare with reference tracks and use Analyst but that's not easy.
Big problem for me: I haven't found how to delete my tracks from the server. I don't want them to stay there forever, for security reasons. It's a question of property rights, but maybe I have to search again how to do this.
The pricing / the offer : I'm not convinced. The free low-res MP3 are of decent quality. But we should at least be able to try the high-res WAV quality once on a track, or every time on a part of a track. Otherwise it's difficult to make a decision. And by the way... the "high-res" WAV format is 16 bit / 44,1 kHz. Is it a joke?
 
You can see that I found more - than +. However I think that LANDR is an interesting addition to SONAR. If the pricing, the resolution and some other things were changed, I may use it and could save much time when mastering. And it is certainly an excellent tool for SONAR Artist / Professional customers and people who don't know anything about mastering. I will wait for improvements to decide whether I want to use it regularly or not.
2016/03/16 23:52:38
stevec
ebibault51
...However I think that LANDR is an interesting addition to SONAR. If the pricing, the resolution and some other things were changed, I may use it and could save much time when mastering. And it is certainly an excellent tool for SONAR Artist / Professional customers and people who don't know anything about mastering. I will wait for improvements to decide whether I want to use it regularly or not.




+1 
 
I think that's a fairly accurate and neutral summation without all the hand-wringing and angst... 
2016/03/21 07:19:51
Grem
Can anyone tell me how to purchase additional/high res masters once you have used your allotted two freebies?
 
I am on the free plan. And once I used my two freebies, I can not see/figure out how to purchase anything!
 
HAs anyone else on the free plan tried to purchase anything from them ?
2016/03/21 07:52:10
Zargg
You will have to log into their web site IRRC, Michael. It is not supported yet in the desktop app, I believe.
All the best.
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