Andrew, thanks for the reply and the tip. No, I didn't change the resolution (because I just clicked on your link in this thread and it opened and played), but that makes perfect sense and I will try that now.
 
Thanks again,
LJ

And then can we throw AudioSnap into the harbor?

bitman
And then can we throw AudioSnap into the harbor?

AudioSnap does some things very well (like snapping bass or drum hits in a track to the transient markers). I'd be very upset if it ended up in a harbor.

Hot dignity dog, the swagger is back!
 
Not since I played with humans in a garage has the music sounded like this.
I played a song on the guitar. Dragged the clip to the title bar making tempo map.
Hopped on the midi drums. Played along. Due to midi timing issues or id10t drummer errors it sounded sloppy
as usual. Quantized to the nearest 16th. - Groovy man!
 
I always had to do the guitar to a drum pattern that was locked to the straight tempo so I could subsequently quantize the drums as midi never seemed tight enough, Even sloppy like I'm  um, not that good. but that was a double neuter of the music, first as I was trying to fit groovy music to a 4/4 and then killing it all by locking the midi drums to that straight click.
 
Now the tables are turned and the computer has to follow me! Ha!
For the first time in I can't remember when I have tightness and biological groove.
 
I'll never complain about anything ever again*.
Thank you Celemony and thank you Cakewalk for liberating us.
 
Now I want to retrack everything I've ever done.
 

I've been putting off recording one of my songs because I knew that this great feature was coming. It's a song that I want to play freely (no click) throughout.
 
One particular section, the 3rd, slows down dramatically and is played rubato, never the same way twice. Faster, slower, louder, softer, dragging, speeding up, pausing....
 
After that, the tempo speeds up and becomes somewhat regular again, although it will still vary naturally. It's a long song with many sections, but the 3rd is the only really different, irregular one. 
 
My question is, should I split the song before and after (just) this "weirdest" section? Or should I try to drag the whole shebang to the timeline at once? Or should I try to split every different section off and drag each one to the timeline? Should I save (archive) multiple copies and try various splits?
 
Should I use Region FX on the whole song? Maybe on only the weird section? Would that make any sense?
 
Here's what I think keeps confusing me and confounding my plans: The two main tracks will be recorded simultaneously: One is an acoustic guitar that, pardon the expression, never shuts up. The other is the lead voice (I'll be singing at the same time). I'm hoping to add bass, drums, keys, harmony voices, etc., later.
 
The way I'm doing the first tracks doesn't allow for nice, clean breaks to later split at. Something's always ringing or sustaining into the next phrase, it seems, or it doesn't sound natural. That is the point of this whole exercise, anyway, to be able to play in the moment and without needing to consider possible future technical difficulties.
 
But what do I do with the finished tracks when I finally have them, to have the best chance ending up with a good tempo map?
 
So that's my question, and probably the answer is, "Try it and find out." It'll be an adventure, anyway. I guess the best thing I can do is to make sure I save a copy somewhere if I'm lucky enough to get a good take of that long acoustic guitar/vocal track.
 
Thanks if you waded through this. Any ideas would be very welcome!
LT
 
 
 

I would simply record the vocal and guitar as usual on separate tracks and then use the GUITAR (as it is "ever present") to use as the tempo map (ie drag to the timeline)

I would definitely use the whole recording and not split it up so that you get the natural, subtle, tempo variations during the "normal" sections to maintain the human feel throughout the song and have a "consistently variable" tempo map (if that makes sense!!)

Thanks very much for the reply, Boydie. What you say makes sense, so I will try to do it the way you suggest.

It was very nice of you to read through that whole post and take the trouble to formulate an answer. Thanks again,

LJ

This is kind of a big deal. I'm very excited.

Sigh. I hate learning with videos when simply reading a document is like a bazillion times faster but it looks like I'm going to have to watch this one.

kevinwal
Sigh. I hate learning with videos when simply reading a document is like a bazillion times faster but it looks like I'm going to have to watch this one.

http://www.cakewalk.com/D...lp=NewFeatures.03.html