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2016/03/31 16:23:41
n13L5
RSMCGUITAR
Many of the problems you're talking about have more to do with Windows, IMO.
Also... It's called Cakewalk Command Centre not Cakewalk Commander.... Though that might be a cool mascot


Look, its not Windows that is the problem.  You can actually program any behavior you want in an application for Windows.
There's absolutely nothing Microsoft prevents you from doing as a programmer. Its just up to your vision and (hired) skill to implement it.
 
Look at XLN's online installer - its pretty much flawless as far as a glorified installer / license checker goes.
 
For all I care, Cakewalk could just duplicate the functionality.  And the cool thing is, they can do that without removing the currently present options in Cakewalk Command Center.  So everybody who likes what they already have can go right on.
But someone who wants to set and forget an installation, after going through and choosing all they want installed or updated ONCE, would finally also be able to do that instead.
 
 
Lastly, failing on loss of internet connection, even if your files are local and need not be downloaded is just bad. And internet seems to be getting more flaky, even in places where I remember it being rock solid...  Its not only the Philippines or Peru where you get cut off several times per hour anymore...
2016/03/31 16:35:47
kevinwal
I tend to agree that CCC has lots of room for improvement. Queuing up downloads and supporting intelligent transfers with download restarts that pick up where they left off would go a long way to make CCC more usable. Some of the other issues OP identifies are less disconcerting for me but I can see his points. OP, consider posting your suggestions as feature requests. I'd be happy to support them.
2016/03/31 16:42:56
n13L5
John
Some of it is due I think because CW wanted to have as much flexibility in how users can install Sonar as possible. Many DL the various parts and install them themselves. Command Center is not for everyone. For me for example it works fine. For others its too confining for them. CW had to balance various interests of its users against ease of use. I think they did a good job. Yet there is still room for improvement.  




Please look at XLN's online installer - it sacrifices absolutely no flexibility, yet it manages to let you choose everything you want done ONCE - at the start - and then it will go through the whole heap unfailingly, without you EVER having to click anything further.
 
So - the important part - you can leave the computer, go to lunch, go to sleep, go to the lake, anything rather than watching for dialogues popping up that need the OK button clicked.
 
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This really is akin to how it took Microsoft more than a decade to duplicate the simple and excellent functionality of DOS' "xcopy" command in Windows.  In windows you were ceaselessly confronted with dialog boxes, upon which the entire process would be halted until someone showed up to click on it. I guess Microsoft was assuming for a long time, that people stay at the computer to watch progress bars(!)
 
Now, finally, if you do a large copy, Windows will keep copying and save any issues for last, after everything that *could be copied* got copied, before Windows prompts for the issues list "hey, this file path is too long, what do you want me to do with it?" or "can't locate file, skip? try again?"  Once you click through the issues, you find all the rest was completed.  Now that's "proper" and "intelligent", without requiring Steve Hawking to think of it.
2016/03/31 20:47:07
Unknowen
Tom Riggs
If you are running the current version of CCC it only checks for updates once every 24 hours. At least it does for me. 
 
The only real issue I have with the CCC is #1 on your list. My internet can be very flaky at times so I no longer use CCC to download the files. I download manually and place them in the CCC download directory, then run CCC for the install so it can check verify the file and activate things.
 
 


Wait , wait... are you saying that the CCC runs through all CW packages and programs everyday looking for updates? Mine never runs unless I open it... Is there something I'm missing...
 
peace!
 
2016/03/31 21:56:12
Geo524
tenfoot
Geo524
I agree. CCC is prehistoric. Man it kills me that it it continuly runs through all your programs after an update.




I don't use CCC much as I install manually, but I did notice when I tried it that changing the setting SCook mentions above (Min Update Interval) stops this from happening.


Thanks Bruce. That would be great.
2016/03/31 22:40:45
ampfixer
Dave000
Tom Riggs
If you are running the current version of CCC it only checks for updates once every 24 hours. At least it does for me. 
 
The only real issue I have with the CCC is #1 on your list. My internet can be very flaky at times so I no longer use CCC to download the files. I download manually and place them in the CCC download directory, then run CCC for the install so it can check verify the file and activate things.
 
 


Wait , wait... are you saying that the CCC runs through all CW packages and programs everyday looking for updates? Mine never runs unless I open it... Is there something I'm missing...
 
peace!
 




The poster was referring to the default refresh time if you leave CCC on continuously. It's in the settings menu. You can change it to your own value. What it means is that if you ran the CCC 12 hrs earlier it would not rescan the Cake site for updates unless you click the little rescan button. I never use this. I wait until folks are talking about an update and then I launch the CCC and trigger a scan manually. 
2016/04/01 03:57:34
Morvejones
I'd also love it to be able to tell you have certain software already installed (Rapture, D-Pro, Channel plug ins etc) most of us had these installed from previous versions, also Melodyne, i have editor so dont need essential, i hate seeing the red dots  ;)
2016/04/01 04:01:25
Bristol_Jonesey
If you don't like the red indicators then you can simply hide that program from being shown in the CCC
2016/04/01 09:25:03
sharke
Are we talking about the same XLN installer which doesn't let you choose where to install the sample library and makes you move it later as an extra step? At least it did the last time I used it - if so, hardly a model installer.
2016/04/01 16:59:04
stevec
sharke
Are we talking about the same XLN installer which doesn't let you choose where to install the sample library and makes you move it later as an extra step? At least it did the last time I used it - if so, hardly a model installer.



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