• SONAR
  • Tomorrow is the end of March and there is no more March after that. (p.5)
2016/03/31 11:58:29
LaszloZoltan
so, we won't be hearing any more marches ?
2016/03/31 11:59:19
scook
There should be more Marches in the future
2016/03/31 11:59:46
Pragi
Dave76
Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
The release is available today. What's the problem? Seriously, you are going to split hairs. We are more interested in releasing stuff that has been properly tested. What other DAW companies are putting out releases with this frequency? This really seems like minor quibbles. Surely there are bigger problems in the world.



I'm not splitting hairs. 
 
 


Sorry Dave, but you do.
That´s what I and many others have been asking the bakers to do:
Releasing only stuff which  has been tested properly.
Right on , Cakewalk.
2016/03/31 12:02:46
tenfoot
Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
And we have delivered a release every month. So again, what's the problem? You know there are software owners who go months and years without any updates :)


I am pretty certain that most people here know and appreciate that very much. It always seems to be the same few voices of dissent that will be bent out of shape no matter what you do. 
2016/03/31 12:16:22
Anderton
Dave76
Anderton
That promise has been kept. Therefore there is no need to change it.


True but I'm responding to "we have never said that we would guarantee a release every month".  Quite clearly the web site and blog has promised monthly updates as part of the membership program that we pay for.  



I agree with your contention that it is a mixed message. However, updates have been delivered monthly for over a year. So to give the message that updates aren't delivered monthly would be incorrect as well. It would have to be something like "Our intention is to deliver updates monthly, and we have, but in the future that may slip although we don't expect to." IMHO it's better just to leave it the way it is as long as it accurately describes what's happening.
 
Then there's also the question of how you would describe it if this update had come out on April 5th, and then another one appeared on April 25th. Technically that would be bi-monthly, but if you look at the first four months of the year, four updates would have come out. I think most people would consider that a "monthly" schedule, even though technically speaking, it's not a 1:1 correspondance between a specific calendar month and a release.
2016/03/31 12:24:39
pwalpwal
"All names, appearances, and features for future updates are subject to change"
2016/03/31 12:33:10
trtzbass
Also, I can imagine that breathing on the developers' necks during the last stages of releasing an update doesn't help promote an environment conducive to excellent work. If it was me I'd be unnerved. Kinda like when you gotta wrap up a mix with the client texting you every ten minutes. We all know the feeling.
the way I see it, a little kindness goes a long way.
Yes if you stick to the digital ink, we are owed a release every month, but we are all people and we should try to get along peacefully.
Yes, I'm impatient to receive Sonar 'O', but at the same time I would like the developers to feel safe in taking risks and pushing the envelope.
Many of the cool things we all ask for in the feedback loop require big overhauls of the software and it could be possible that us being too pushy could make the bakers play safe and not invest in the juicy stuff, for fear of an uprising in case of a late delivery.
I personally choose to invest my monthly fee in supporting a group of people that give me a working environment I enjoy using. Yes they said we'd receive monthly usable upgrades (not early access, God knows I wouldn't risk working with a potentially unstable DAW), yes they might be late and yes in the grand scheme of things and for the kind of money they ask, I'd rather happily wait than put pressure on them.
But that's just me, of course
2016/03/31 12:39:53
einstein36
Anderton
I think we should invite all the people who post "Where's the update? We're supposed to have an update!" and all the ones who say "I'd rather not have something every month, it must be too difficult to follow a monthly schedule" to a large hall, have an open bar, and charge admission to anyone who wants to watch what happens when they start arguing with each other. 


 LOl...I love it....it's almost as good as putting the democrats and the republicans in the same room and watch the show :)
2016/03/31 14:50:58
dwardzala
Anderton
I think we should invite all the people who post "Where's the update? We're supposed to have an update!" and all the ones who say "I'd rather not have something every month, it must be too difficult to follow a monthly schedule" to a large hall, have an open bar, and charge admission to anyone who wants to watch what happens when they start arguing with each other. 


We already have the Republican debates for that 
2016/03/31 15:10:36
M@
Anderton
I think we should invite all the people who post "Where's the update? We're supposed to have an update!" and all the ones who say "I'd rather not have something every month, it must be too difficult to follow a monthly schedule" to a large hall, have an open bar, and charge admission to anyone who wants to watch what happens when they start arguing with each other. 


Funny: I'd be arguing with myself then....
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