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2016/01/27 05:08:45
christian.landstrom
Thank you Vastman,
 
Make a miditrack in the original project and paste the tempomap to the that track shoul be easy enough.
 
Problem now is where do I rightclick to select copy in the project  that has the tempomap that I imported from melodyne? Tried to rightclick a little everywhere in Sonar and searching in menus to no avail?
2016/01/27 09:05:42
rebel007
Nice. thanks Dana (and everyone else) for taking the time to research and post this.
2016/01/27 10:10:28
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Were planning on adding drag drop if tempo data via ARA. This is also possible with melodyne 2, we chose not to implement that area at the time.
2016/01/27 23:28:18
stevec
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Were planning on adding drag drop if tempo data via ARA. This is also possible with melodyne 2, we chose not to implement that area at the time.




Oooohhh..    Nice!       I've never been that comfortable using free-form performances and converting them to sync-able projects, but this looks like the answer to that one - allowing music to breathe with ARA.  
 
Add the ability to select tracks directly in the ARA window (if possible) and it would make for seamless integration between the two.... as though Melodyne was simply another view within SONAR.
 
2016/01/28 00:46:22
christian.landstrom
Thank you Cakewalk!
Looking forward to drag and drop via ARA. Tried the tempo feature in Melodyne on an old Project and it's close to magic!  The workaround is a little tedious right now, thank you everyone in this tread for showing how
(by the way, english is not my native language, I'm Swedish :-)
2016/01/28 16:10:40
stevec
Yeah, I've been playing around with that as well.   Having Melodyne in the tools menu does help speed things up.
 
Question: When copying the tempo(s) from the exported MIDI file, did anyone else find that they needed to select along the timeline to get all of the tempo changes?   If I didn't do that before copying, what got pasted into the "real" project was just the first tempo.
2016/02/07 18:07:31
Elffin
Looking forward to see developments on this...
2016/02/19 09:16:10
gbowling
Is there any way in melodyne 4 studio to edit a detected beat? I know you can edit the tempo, flatten it, or expand it or whatever, but I'm talking about a miss detected beat. Let's say there is a beat melodyne detected as beat 1 when it is actually beat 3 of the previous bar. Similar to sonar's "set measure at beat now" function.
 
I have some old songs I was trying to build a tempo map for and am trying to learn how to use melodyne for this. There are two places in one of the songs where it says the tempo goes from  about 150BPM to about 100 BPM in one bar. Obviously that isn't correct. The result is if you change the tempo or do anything to the tempo in melodyne, that bar gets totally screwed up. The rest of the song is fine.
 
I can't seem to understand how to manually adjust that bar to move the detected beats. If you edit the tempo map you see a big dip right at that one bar, any attempt to edit the graph at that bar results in it screwing everything up. I need to be able to tell Melodyne that the beat is NOT what it detected.
 
Melodyne has done away with their forum and only has a FB page, really makes you appreciated this forum!! FB is a terrible way to handle user-user interactions.
 
gabo
2016/02/19 10:55:13
mettelus
Check out the "tempo regions" on this page. It says "Superfluous region divisions:* Sometimes the analysis introduces region divisions where the tempo only slows slightly. These divisions, and the superfluous tempo regions they create, can be deleted. To delete a tempo region, double-click on its vertical handle."
2016/02/19 14:21:53
gbowling
Thanks, I've read that page about 50 times and not got it to do exactly what I want. There are so many subtle things you can do and like all these tools it's frustrating when you first start. I got done what I needed to do, but not entirely sure how I did it!!
 
I have to go through that page a bunch more times. Luckily this is a learning day and I'm just working on some throw away things to learn.
 
EDIT: Ah, I was incorrectly thinking that "assign tempo mode" was something you do with the tempo tool from the toolbar. But it's not, there is an "assign tempo" from the dropdown at the top. 
 
So, assign tempo lets you move the tempo markers to match the audio without changing the audio. And Edit tempo  and the tempo tool lets you  move the audio to match the tempo markers and does change the audio. I'm slow but I'm getting there! haha
 
gabo
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