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2016/03/12 07:40:33
tlw
joakes
V Control with Ney-Fi is much more reliable than AC7 plus rtpmidi (agreed, that only works occasionally)

And i don't remember forking out 50$ every year for V-Control 😜


V-Control Pro version 2 is now a $50/year subscription and requires ilok.
2016/03/12 07:56:21
azslow3
tenfoot
I have a dedicated wireless router in the back of my rack,  not online with nothing connected to it but the X32 and my laptop Az. I am not sure how much simpler my infrastructure can get.  If rtpmidi see's and connects to a device it is fine, and 7 out of 10 times it will. It's the other 3 times that rendered it unsuitable for me.

That is not a question of simplicity but the networking configuration in participated devices. For example Static IP vs DHCP and possible DNS inside the router. But I do not want go deep into details, wrong forum/board for that.
 

The app looks great!  Any chance of loop and next/previous marker buttons? If it easy to connect and stable you might be surprised at how many users you get Azslow.  Having used AZ control I have no doubt it will be excellent. 

That is NOT an app! It is a web page, loadable in any web capable device. So, no installation, no configuration, no nightmare after OS update of phone change. Another "automatic" advantage is "multi-client support". I will test myself with Androids 3.3-5.1, iPod 3, Wii U and Windows 10 tablet.

The final destination for that function is AZ Controller. In the very first "layout" there was more transport buttons, current time panel and marker navigation... But than I decided to keep the functionality of the first version at bare minimum and make separate minimal CS plug-in. I want buttons which I will not "miss", even on small phone screen. The first big challenge is to make the page displayed correctly. The second part is just a Web server build-in into CS plug-in
 
2016/03/12 08:00:58
John
pwalpwal
Anderton
It's not some idiot, it's the same idiot from Australia who comes in here periodically, using a variety of alts, to dump on SONAR and the forum community.


fwiw, what i don't understand is why the forum "hosts" don't use their hostly powers to delete off-topic posts and ban regular ot posters? it would make for a much tidier forum... as it stands, they tend to just answer the regular should-be-in-a-faq type questions, and sometimes move posts to other forums... but, i supoose, it is what it is...


Why because that post in particular did not violate any rule that would trigger a ban or a delete. It was a close call on my part but as much as I wanted to act I restrained myself because I believe we can handle a little disruption. I value freedom and as much free speech as we can tolerate. I'm sorry it was my inaction that you may be upset with.
 
However I don't believe any real harm was done by that poster. He only made himself look silly.  
2016/03/12 08:06:49
pwalpwal
John
pwalpwal
Anderton
It's not some idiot, it's the same idiot from Australia who comes in here periodically, using a variety of alts, to dump on SONAR and the forum community.


fwiw, what i don't understand is why the forum "hosts" don't use their hostly powers to delete off-topic posts and ban regular ot posters? it would make for a much tidier forum... as it stands, they tend to just answer the regular should-be-in-a-faq type questions, and sometimes move posts to other forums... but, i supoose, it is what it is...


Why because that post in particular did not violate any rule that would trigger a ban or a delete. It was a close call on my part but as much as I wanted to act I restrained myself because I believe we can handle a little disruption. I value freedom and as much free speech as we can tolerate. I'm sorry it was my inaction that you may be upset with.
 
However I don't believe any real harm was done by that poster. He only made himself look silly.  


hi john, thanks for replying
i think you hosty guys and gals should be more ruthless with deleting off topic posts - so that would include mine and yours! because this is a thread about tablet remote apps :-)
cheers
2016/03/12 08:51:57
musicroom
I use my iPad more than the desktop these days except for time using Sonar. With that said, YES, I want Sonar apps to control my desktop but even more for remote recording. I think it will be offered in the future, I realize it would be a sizable undertaking with all the cool things we're getting now. But count another user in support of Sonar related apps!
2016/03/12 09:58:24
Paul P
MelodicJimmy
My overall point is this:  I ****ing LOVE Sonar Platinum.  I really do.  I'm not complaining about the stability or anything like that.  It's absolutely rock solid.  ****ing awesome.  But, I guess I'm just baffled that it's such a great program and .... there's these stupid little things that aren't addressed? 

 
I think it has to do with Cakewalk being a very, very small company and a good tablet app isn't a trivial undertaking.  And who knows, they may already have something of the sort under development in their spare time.
 
Bruce's (tenfoot) use of a tablet is pretty amazing, but I don't see that as a common requirement for Sonar use.  A simple app similar to a TranzPort controller would probably make most people happy (I'd prefer a hardware version myself).
2016/03/12 10:35:42
Anderton
LJB
Anyone who spends as much time as I using a mouse starts running into physical issues like numb wrists and sore shoulders - most of those are to do with the unnatural position one has to be in when holding a mouse for 10 hours a day. I have been looking at getting a touch screen for my main monitor (a'la Raven 2.0) just to have more physical movement in the day, but I'm not having any luck finding an affordable option.



Touch control via a monitor is not a panacea. First of all not everything in SONAR responds to touch. For example you can't move clips around with touch, and there's still no touch-based right-click option. Also, you need to accept some changes in your physical layout. I have my touch monitor laid flat but angled up slightly, like a hardware mixer. At least for me, a touchscreen doesn't work set it up vertically like a standard monitor because your arms have to spend so much time elevated to touch the screen. However the "pseudo-mixer" setup is great, because I don't have to keep bending my neck backward to look up at a vertical monitor. 
 
What the touch monitor does best for me is allow two-hand control. I work the mouse with my left hand for "fine" control and use the right hand for the touch gestures. The main advantage this has is speeding up workflow, and it does require less mousing around. I also have a second traditional monitor where I park things like plug-ins and VIs.
 
As to whether Cakewalk will develop a remote, I have no idea. PreSonus already had the nuts and bolts in place for controlling StudioLive, so they just needed to adapt what they had for Studio One. Yamaha already had apps for synth control surface applications so again, it didn't take much to adapt that to Cubase. As to Logic, if anyone knows how to write an iPad app, it's Apple. I assume Cakewalk would need a separate team to do a remote, or contract a third party to create one. Particularly in the latter case, the company would have to decide if they would sell enough remotes to cover the cost of a third-party developer. I suspect the answer would be no, but they'd have to do some research to find out. They'd also need to find out if people would be disappointed if other features/fixes weren't implemented in its stead.
 
 
2016/03/12 10:38:01
pwalpwal
phew!
2016/03/12 10:39:50
Anderton
LJB, I'm doing a separate post about RSI so it doesn't get lost. I've spent decades in front of computers using keyboards and mice and have not had RSI problems (at least not yet ). With the advent of USB it's easy to have more than one "human interface device." Plug in a trackball and a mouse, then alternate between the two. Cutting the number of repetitive gestures in half by distributing all your gestures over two devices can really help. 
2016/03/12 11:53:39
mdages
I'm using Lemur App on Android tablet. I know, Lemur is almost a Midi Controller but this beast is very flexible and Sonar is capable to remote control many things by midi.
 
Such a tablet solution is usable for all of us sitting alone in studio and in recording room. Ok, walking hundred times from studio to rec-room and back is nice for feet muscles, but brain frustrating.
 
A nice idea would be some voice controlled commands for Sonar, maybe a little bit Siri to Sonar?
 
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