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  • Why doesn't Sonar have an iPad or Android app? (p.5)
2016/03/12 15:19:40
tlw
Paul P 
Bruce's (tenfoot) use of a tablet is pretty amazing, but I don't see that as a common requirement for Sonar use.  A simple app similar to a TranzPort controller would probably make most people happy (I'd prefer a hardware version myself).

 
For me the main function of a touchscreen/tablet controller is that I can move multiple mixer track and bus pans and faders at the same time like a hardware console. Some things are much easier to do when you're not restricted to moving one control at a time.
 
I use an iPad for this because I've got an iPad :-)
 
Also because using a touch screen like a mixing console means switching off touch gestures in the operating system otherwise chaos results. I prefer to leave the OS settings alone and just turn off gestures on the iPad.
 
2016/03/12 16:34:46
sharke
I am sure Cakewalk could write a remote transport app for iOS and Android with one hand tied behind their backs. I would absolutely love one. There is one place in my room in which my guitar doesn't pick up interference and unfortunately it's sitting some distance away from my DAW with my back to it. I can just about twist around and reach my mouse at a stretch but recording multiple takes and overdubs becomes a sort of contortionist act which leaves me sore afterwards. Having the transport controls along with some kind of simplified Now Time indicator would be great.
2016/03/12 20:11:06
Anderton
Not sure if this is what you mean by a simplified Now time indicator, but although it appears that the Big Time allows only point sizes up to 72, you can type in point sizes up to 144.
 

 
 
2016/03/13 05:35:11
subtlearts
Anderton
I've spent decades in front of computers using keyboards and mice and have not had RSI problems (at least not yet ). With the advent of USB it's easy to have more than one "human interface device." Plug in a trackball and a mouse, then alternate between the two. Cutting the number of repetitive gestures in half by distributing all your gestures over two devices can really help. 



I can heartily second this statement. I play piano, accordion and trumpet in various shows for a living and this means that any problems from excessive mouse use are serious, career-threatening stuff, so I have to be VERY careful. But my other projects require lots of computer time too and I'm not prepared to abandon them, so I've had to find solutions. I have also been through the full spectrum, from intermittent mild pain and numbness through full-blown tendinitis and the beginnings of carpal tunnel syndrome, so I'm cautious. My current setup is a trackball and a Contour Shuttle on the right hand, a mouse on the left hand, and a trackpad attached to the keyboard. And an Alphatrack and an old Kore unit as CS inputs. At first I had to consciously force myself to switch between these, but it's become second nature now and I have had no trouble at all since adjusting to this system. Changing up the actions regularly is definitely the key to avoiding issues for me. 
 
Back on topic, I saw recently that Wild Blue Sound is releasing a control platform for their Orbit and Eclipse instruments that is based on the Lemur app - which is expensive as apps go but seems solid and crazy flexible, likely more so than TouchDaw or other free/cheap options. It is likely a whole lot easier to program a template for Lemur and take advantage of their established system, than to code a dedicated platform from scratch. Of course users would have to buy the app, but we would get a bunch of other possibilities into the bargain. Anyone checked it out?
2016/03/13 06:33:32
tenfoot
subtlearts
 
Back on topic, I saw recently that Wild Blue Sound is releasing a control platform for their Orbit and Eclipse instruments that is based on the Lemur app - which is expensive as apps go but seems solid and crazy flexible, likely more so than TouchDaw or other free/cheap options. It is likely a whole lot easier to program a template for Lemur and take advantage of their established system, than to code a dedicated platform from scratch. Of course users would have to buy the app, but we would get a bunch of other possibilities into the bargain. Anyone checked it out?


 

Marcus mentioned Lamur a couple of posts back:
 
mdages
I'm using Lemur App on Android tablet. I know, Lemur is almost a Midi Controller but this beast is very flexible and Sonar is capable to remote control many things by midi.
 
Such a tablet solution is usable for all of us sitting alone in studio and in recording room. Ok, walking hundred times from studio to rec-room and back is nice for feet muscles, but brain frustrating.
 
A nice idea would be some voice controlled commands for Sonar, maybe a little bit Siri to Sonar?
 
Markus




 
 I checked it out and there seems to be just one template in ipad resolution for Sonar. Whether that could be loaded in the Android version I don't know.  
 
The app looks great.  Maybe Marcus will chime back in to give some more details on how he uses it with Sonar,. 
2016/03/13 10:34:25
sharke
Anderton
Not sure if this is what you mean by a simplified Now time indicator, but although it appears that the Big Time allows only point sizes up to 72, you can type in point sizes up to 144.
 

 
 


That would be great if my only issue with the Now time and recording guitar was distance - unfortunately it's that my "sweet spot" involves me sitting with my back to the DAW and all of the twisting and craning I have to do to look at the screen and play with the mouse etc plays havoc with my neck and lower back.
2016/03/13 11:40:48
Thatsastrat
For remote control of Sonar I have been using Team Viewer on a Fire HD6. The program running on the main daw is duplicated on the hd fire. You are forced to use the mouse cursor on the HD Fire, but I can control anything I can control on the main daw with the Fire HD. You get no sound from the Fire HD, but what ever can be controlled in the daw can be controlled by the Fire, which with Team Viewer the daw is acting like a server to the  Fire HD, and it works great. I learned about this here.
2016/03/13 12:20:51
stratman70
Same as LJB, I would love to free my hands from the mouse for a while. I do have a small app with a foot pedal that gives me 3 options-I use record -play and rewind. One of those dictation software things. Actually have been using it (well similar one, not the same one) since the 90's because I did a long stint as a one man show. forn ow it helps just to be able to keep my hands on the guitar and hit record-play or rewind with my foot. It's USB and wired of course. I use a 15 ft cable. 
 
But the remote app would be cool - although I would have to use my hands---But I would in a heart beat
2016/03/13 12:36:54
Elffin
I posted this s few years back

Well - I purchased the Custom keypad - bout £2.50 - there's a version for ipad and iphone..

I then installed the free "tightvnc" on my computer.   Selected portfwarding on my router for VNC.



Now the only 2 niggles I had was.... the custom keypad has a problem sending capitals..

It also has problem with the shift key so using ctrl+shift+1 to get a whole note in score view was worked around by doing ctrl+!   .

I've only had this for a brief time so the icons I have created are note perfect to look at yet...  

For notation users it adds the ability to select rhythm values which is missing...   Its seems possible  make keystrokes for dotted rhythms too - which I will have a look at ...


  



Trying to make shortcuts for screensets soon...

 

Hope images appear
2016/03/13 12:40:59
tenfoot
mdages
I'm using Lemur App on Android tablet. I know, Lemur is almost a Midi Controller but this beast is very flexible and Sonar is capable to remote control many things by midi



Thanks for the tip Marcus -  Lemur is brilliant! I downloaded the Sonar template,  had it resized for for Galaxy Tab 10.5 and up and running in 20 mins (may take a little longer if it is your first time with remote apps and virtual midi).  The most complete control of Sonar I have seen on any remote,  hardware or software. Best  $35aus I have ever spent. 
 
Anyone looking for a remote for Sonar should check it out.
 
I hereby cancel my request for a remote app.  I no longer give a rats ****.  
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