• SONAR
  • More unreliable MIDI editing stupidity (p.2)
2016/03/25 05:48:54
Kylotan
Polyphonic aftertouch might be nice but wouldn't make a difference in my case. Not everybody wants to perform their music as they write it. In fact I'd argue most electronic musicians prefer to be at the other extreme.
 
I'm in Sound on Sound mode. I avoid Comping mode as it does the wrong thing the majority of the time.
 
I have six Take Lanes in the track. Why, considering I have never recorded any data into that track at all, only dragged MIDI clips in? Who knows. The Take Lane system is utter trash and we've covered this extensively in previous threads.
2016/03/25 06:20:53
Sanderxpander
I sense some real frustration here.
Honestly I really like the take lane system for audio. I never really got how it was fundamentally different from layers either but it fits my workflow.

My midi editing needs are modest these days. I play most stuff and fix small bits here and there. The (for me) incidental oddities are annoying but I get around them.

The main thing I get from this thread that I wholeheartedly agree with is that I wish here would be a better way to manage the relationship between the PRV and the selected/opened clip in track view. If I double click a clip and edit it in PRV, I would prefer to ONLY see that clip and have all my edits constrained to that clip. Any clip management I want to do (merge, etc) should happen in track view where I can actually see and manage clips. If I want to move notes from one clip to another, let me cut them from one, open the next clip and paste them there. Right now it's completely unclear where your edits will end up. Even a simple clip boundary indicator (or different colors?) in PRV would be something.
2016/03/25 07:00:34
Kylotan
All agreed, and I've said this before.
 
Hey, it would be nice if when double clicking a clip to edit it in PRV, it was actually guaranteed to appear in the PRV, but even that simple thing is broken.
 
This is my life with Sonar: double clicking on the thing I want to edit, then scrolling so I can actually see that thing, performing the edit, then having to go and check it's not broken something else.
2016/03/25 08:07:03
icontakt
Sanderxpander
Even a simple clip boundary indicator (or different colors?) in PRV would be something.

 
Fortunately, SONAR already has the option to do that. Enable "Show Clip Outlines" in the PRV's View menu.
 
But it's pretty unusable when editing multiple tracks:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Show-clip-outlines-for-the-active-track-only-m3194610.aspx
 
2016/03/25 09:03:33
dcumpian
Let us hope midi editing gets some love in 2016...
 
Dan
 
2016/03/25 10:12:49
Snehankur
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Sorry for trying in this way. What I want to mean is I can adjust start timing for the notes selecting them with Timing option from tools. Can I also stretch the note endings of the notes to match to nearest bar/beat as per steps specified?
 
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Regards
Snehankur
2016/03/25 11:16:05
Anderton
Snehankur
Can I also stretch the note endings of the notes to match to nearest bar/beat as per steps specified?



There may be a CAL script for that, but I'm not aware of any option other than adjusting manually with snap on.
2016/03/25 11:20:44
Anderton
Kylotan
I have six Take Lanes in the track. Why, considering I have never recorded any data into that track at all, only dragged MIDI clips in? Who knows. The Take Lane system is utter trash and we've covered this extensively in previous threads.



This is why I bounce a lot. In my ideal world, MIDI would be a single ribbon of data, and editing would automatically "heal" any splices to preserve that single ribbon when editing a part that was played in real-time into the track. However I assume that wouldn't be optimum when dragging clips in, because of what would happen if clips overlapped and there was a conflict between controllers, duplicate notes, etc.
2016/03/25 11:31:46
Tom Riggs
I have used the comping mode for recording in midi. Mainly because I did not turn it off after recording so audio. It can be useful for selecting the best performance just as in audio.
 
However when it is time to do much editing. I would flatten the comp and then copy that midi clip to a new track for editing and mute the first one.
 
That way I have access to the other clips if I want. Also I do not use midi editing in the prv at all.
 
If I were to wish for something it would be a way to turn off lanes on a track by track basis.
 
 
2016/03/25 13:22:09
Snehankur
Anderton
Snehankur
Can I also stretch the note endings of the notes to match to nearest bar/beat as per steps specified?



There may be a CAL script for that, but I'm not aware of any option other than adjusting manually with snap on.


Can it be a feature request?
Regards
Snehankur
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