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2016/03/25 11:54:56
Sacalait
I just bought NX.  I haven't exactly put any time into it yet but I listened quickly to a track I'm working on.  My first impression is "whatever" but I'm very willing to say I haven't used it properly.  ...just happy I got it before it went off sale... 
2016/03/25 14:56:37
Anderton
subtlearts
Hey Craig... thanks for clarifying! I pretty much took all that as implicit, and didn't mean to demean the Monitorizer at all

 
I didn't take your post that way at all, but I did want people to know they could dial back from the defaults easily if they wanted less of an effect.
 
2016/03/25 17:40:12
Sycraft
Head tracking isn't just for VR either. Normally with a HRTF solution it is like you bolted a speaker assembly to your head. The soundfield moves with your head, which is unnatrual. Proper head tracking can make it sound like the speakers are sat in one spot. If it is good enough, it can fool you in to thinking it is real. The Realiser A8 properly calibrated is more or less impossible to distinguish form the system is was calibrated on. Of course it is $3000, needs $1000 headphones to work really well, and needs a good speaker setup to be calibrated on.
2016/03/25 19:02:28
GIM Productions
Hi all i would remember a valid alternative to emulate an enviroment,Sonarworks.
It's very accurate i have tried the akg240 impulse,i will buy it.
Best
2016/03/25 21:31:30
keefmeister
Thank you all for this great discussion.  I am a sucker for an interesting/cool plugin, and I need to put a governor on my impulse buying.  Sonar Platinum (which comes with useful FX like Craig's monitorizer) has so many tools included I'll likely never use them all in my lifetime.  I'd be better off simplifying my mixing process and sticking with fewer tools...the ones I already have in Sonar.  Waves Nx (like Monitorizer) piqued my interest since I have to work in headphones a lot.  The intro price seems reasonable but I don't want to buy a gimmick if it's not going to perform as well (or noticeably  better) than Monitorizer.  While I'm not exactly new at audio production, it's a hobby so I don't get to spend as much time on it as I'd like. Forums like this help me make better decisions about all sorts of things...including software purchases.  I value your input.  Thanks again.
2016/03/25 21:35:03
Anderton
keefmeister
The intro price seems reasonable but I don't want to buy a gimmick if it's not going to perform as well (or noticeably  better) than Monitorizer. 



It does a lot more than the Monitorizer, so the question becomes whether you need the extra capabilities, or whether a basic, no-frills option will take care of you. I think you can demo Waves plug-ins for a limited period of time...that's the best way to know if it provides functionality you want/need.
 
My priority is what will help create songs faster and more transparently. SONAR has pretty much everything you need for editing and mixing but ultimately it's the creative impulse that has value; no one cares what EQ you used on the kick drum. 
 
2016/03/26 06:27:16
subtlearts
Anderton
 
It does a lot more than the Monitorizer, so the question becomes whether you need the extra capabilities, or whether a basic, no-frills option will take care of you. I think you can demo Waves plug-ins for a limited period of time...that's the best way to know if it provides functionality you want/need.

 
Waves demos are fully functional for 7 days and then seem to helpfully disappear themselves when that's over, so you're not left with a non-functioning plugin to clear from your directories (of which I have far too many). You pretty much have to install and use their Waves Central software to set them up, but it's relatively painless. 
 

My priority is what will help create songs faster and more transparently. SONAR has pretty much everything you need for editing and mixing but ultimately it's the creative impulse that has value; no one cares what EQ you used on the kick drum. 

 
Hmmm. Couldn't agree more with the first part, of course, but I've found that there are lots of people around, particularly on music gear and software forums, who care a great deal about what EQ or compressor you might have used, and are prepared to judge you as a person based on it, but likely don't give a rat's posterior about (and certainly won't waste their time listening to) your music. So it goes... 
2016/03/26 09:33:13
Anderton
I should have said no listener cares what EQ you put on your kick drum 
2016/03/26 09:35:34
subtlearts
Anderton
I should have said no listener cares what EQ you put on your kick drum 



Bingo!
2016/03/26 10:09:54
pwalpwal
subtlearts
Anderton
I should have said no listener cares what EQ you put on your kick drum 



Bingo!


just so long as it's more than ten layered kick drums ;-)
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