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  • Bus control - making volume higher/lower as group for buses / should delay, reverb faders?
2016/03/10 17:31:41
magik570
Scenario:
Guitars go to 1 bus
Keys go to another bus
Drums go to another bus
then I have reverb bus, delay bus..
 
When I make (all bus)volumes/faders higher or lower to comply with Mix bus's "don't peak over -6db (leave room for mastering)" strategy, do I include the delay/reverb bus faders too in that groups of buses that I am about to make it higher/lower (in volume)?
 
I hope i explained it ok 
2016/03/10 19:55:39
Sanderxpander
Assuming your verbs and delays are post fader they'll automatically generate less sound if you lower the source faders so I'd leave them untouched. Otherwise you're basically altering your mix.
2016/03/10 20:18:10
tenfoot
Sanderxpander
Assuming your verbs and delays are post fader they'll automatically generate less sound if you lower the source faders so I'd leave them untouched. Otherwise you're basically altering your mix.

But the OP is talking about adjusting the bus volumes,  not the source faders.  In this case you would include the fx bus in your adjustments,  otherwise you would be changing the wet/dry balance of your mix. 
2016/03/10 20:54:03
Anderton
Quick Grouping is your friend.
2016/03/11 04:50:16
Sanderxpander
tenfoot
Sanderxpander
Assuming your verbs and delays are post fader they'll automatically generate less sound if you lower the source faders so I'd leave them untouched. Otherwise you're basically altering your mix.

But the OP is talking about adjusting the bus volumes,  not the source faders.  In this case you would include the fx bus in your adjustments,  otherwise you would be changing the wet/dry balance of your mix. 

Yeah I guess it depends, I often have a reverb send on a bus (like for backing vocals), in which case the bus is also a source.
2016/03/11 07:55:49
tenfoot
Sanderxpander
tenfoot
Sanderxpander
Assuming your verbs and delays are post fader they'll automatically generate less sound if you lower the source faders so I'd leave them untouched. Otherwise you're basically altering your mix.

But the OP is talking about adjusting the bus volumes,  not the source faders.  In this case you would include the fx bus in your adjustments,  otherwise you would be changing the wet/dry balance of your mix. 

Yeah I guess it depends, I often have a reverb send on a bus (like for backing vocals), in which case the bus is also a source.



True in that instance - just from the way op listed his busses they appear to be straight fx.
 
2016/03/11 12:08:07
magik570
My busses for reverb and delay are straight FX... what's the verdict?
2016/03/11 12:43:51
Sanderxpander
If you're feeding your fx busses from sends on your tracks, reduce all bus fader levels together. If you're feeding your fx busses from your summing busses (like, a reverb send from the keyboards bus to the reverb bus), don't reduce fx bus fader levels.
2016/03/11 12:51:03
magik570
Thanks..I understand now why my last mix did not come out as good as I thought it would 
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