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2016/03/08 16:33:17
Anderton
williamcopper
It's my pleasure to be here on the forum with this advice because of a recent crash, losing a couple hours of painstaking work, from exactly this kind of bug in Sonar. 



You keep mentioning losing hours of painstaking work. You really should save periodically.
 
When I first started using computers back in the days of CP/M and 8" floppies, I asked a computer guru how often I should save. His answer was "any time you have something you don't want to lose." That advice has served me very well for close to four decades.
 
Ctrl+S takes under a second, "Save As..." a little longer.
2016/03/08 16:43:51
williamcopper
True.    I know it.   But when you get in the groove, nothing registers except moving forward, things are going great.    It only seems like 10 minutes have elapsed, until the crash and you review where you were last time the project was saved.
2016/03/08 17:00:07
brundlefly
williamcopper
For instance, 'lasso' a group of notes to copy and paste.     Looks like you just have notes, right?     But once you go to track view and indicate tracks, suddently you've got a time-range selection, with everything in that range selected (controllers, patch changes, pitch wheel, aftertouch, etc etc).     A complicated PITA, with what you want to do and what's possible two different things.



Unchecking 'Select Controllers Along With Notes' in the Controllers tab of the PRV is not working?
 
2016/03/08 19:04:11
jimkleban
As we all probably know, this copy and paste behavior can be a bit tricky (sometimes it works, sometimes it does not).  What I have discovered is if you PASTE something and it doesn't show up in the newly selected track that you thought it should, it went somewhere and I highly suggest you hit CNTL Z before you try to paste again.  I think this is how many users are getting double notes in their MIDI tracks, that is, they actually pasted it back to where it was copied from without knowing.
 
That is all the wisdom for one day from me,
Jim
 
 
2016/03/08 19:45:05
AllanH
jimkleban
As we all probably know, this copy and paste behavior can be a bit tricky ..
That is all the wisdom for one day from me,
Jim

^^^^^
CTRL-Z is your friend with copy & paste
I don't know how many times I've had the "where the heck did they go?" and the later finding double-notes.
 
I do think something got fixed, and doing it directly in the PRV as described definitely is more intuitive.
 
2016/03/09 14:04:46
williamcopper
Brundlefly:   "Unchecking 'Select Controllers Along With Notes' in the Controllers tab of the PRV is not working?"
 
That option is so flawed that is is always unchecked.   The trouble is with the interaction between PRV and track view.   If you touch a track header in track view, your selection changes from a specific set of things to a time range selection.       
2016/03/09 14:55:58
brundlefly
williamcopper
Brundlefly:   "Unchecking 'Select Controllers Along With Notes' in the Controllers tab of the PRV is not working?"
 
That option is so flawed that is is always unchecked.   The trouble is with the interaction between PRV and track view.   If you touch a track header in track view, your selection changes from a specific set of things to a time range selection.       



Good one; a gratuitous feature-bashing two-fer. As usual, you're obfuscating the issue with 'drive-by' postings that don't contain enough detail to be of any value to anyone, and are more about airing your many frustrations with SONAR than about helping the OP.
 
All I can tell you is that I don't experience the PRV selection changing just by touching a track header in the TV to make it the target for the paste.
 
And I think it's been established that you can select the target track in the PRV track pane so long as you don't have a locked PRV interfering with this functionality.
2016/03/09 15:13:37
bandso
Even trying to copy/paste audio from one location to another on the same track can be hit or miss. Select and Copy the audio on say track 3, move the timeline and press paste...nothing... then I zoom all over the project and find the audio pasted on track 18 (or some other random track)?!? huh? I just selected audio on track 3, why didn't it paste on track 3??
2016/03/09 18:17:17
Paul G
jimkleban
... I highly suggest you hit CNTL Z before you try to paste again.

I've never gotten more than one paste.  I have to go back and reCopy, then paste again.  Typically, if something is copied to the clipboard, you can keep pasting.  Not so in Sonar, (unless I'm doing something wrong, which might well be true).
2016/03/09 18:22:26
Paul G
bandso
Even trying to copy/paste audio from one location to another on the same track can be hit or miss. Select and Copy the audio on say track 3, move the timeline and press paste...nothing... then I zoom all over the project and find the audio pasted on track 18 (or some other random track)?!? huh? I just selected audio on track 3, why didn't it paste on track 3??


Yep!  Very frustrating.  I've gotten to the point where, (in Take Lanes), I just create another lane and drag the copy there and then drag to where ever I need to paste.  It would sure be nice if you could just click where you'd like the clip pasted and it would.
 
Paul
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