What an interesting conversation. Paul keyed in on it all. Basically 'we are all looking at Sonar from different needs'. Sure there are a lot of us who share likes. But it still has to do with what 'I'want to do. I remember back when all I wanted was to have something to save ideas on to share with band members. I think we all sort of started here. Music changed through the years and our demands and desires changed. Being a keyboard player, midi came along and Wow, I could play along with myself and have different parts. Ok, sounds weren't great but hey. Things progressed and finally we end up here.(I remember when I thought there had to be a better way to do strings and horns than stretch taped sounds over tape heads.lol). We now have software that can do it all. Maybe we don't need to do it all. Maybe starter software for various avenues of needs. Then a major software upgrade to incorporate it all. If we had Sonar Max, we could drop any smaller sonar platform we owned into Max and voila all would work together. There could even be a performance package to use it all live. Resources could be optimized to do the things we want to do by disabling parts that we don't need using resources. Just thinking here.

I am grateful that the program works as good as it does, given all the configurations out there now.  There must be a balance between competition and uniformity.  For instance, we are lucky that midi generally works similarly on most instruments - though  a direct line connection to a PCI card from a keyboard would likely produce less latency.   If we had a clear top motherboard, cpu, video card, memory, power supply, etc. that actually was "the top" for some years" there would be some benefits.  I wonder if and when it will all peak out?  0 latency?  (Then someone will develop a latency creator so it sounds more human :)
 

John Joseph [Cakewalk]
Eh, that's more for someone in QA to say. They definitely test things on a wide array of platforms and hardware configurations, but it's tough to stay on top of everything. The matrix of things they have to go through (on several OSes in several languages) is vast, and as we add new features that matrix continues to grow. 

deswind
I wonder if and when it will all peak out?  0 latency?  (Then someone will develop a latency creator so it sounds more human :)

^^
 
I am very pleased with the direction Cakewalk is heading. I have never had a more stable DAW / system.
I hope it continues this way.
All the best.

Pretty sure that all of my recent crashes are a result of using older plugs, some if which could easily have been 32 bit offerings.

Stability is what moved me from other midi sequencers to Cakewalk in the DOS days.
So far, any crashes I have experienced have been down to definite causes.
Once, it really was Sonar's fault (somewhat exotic situation but repeatable).
Noel appeared on the thread and said: "Send us the dump".
Despite my grumblings, it's that kind of thing I think is great.

I don't mean to step on anyone's toes, but I thought the last real dsp guy left Cake after doing the CA2A. They haven't really released any new fx plugins since then, right? I'd love to be wrong, I really like CA2A. 

John Joseph [Cakewalk]
I probably shouldn't be chiming in here, but... I think sharke's last post is one of the sanest things I've read on these forums (and, for the record, I am that kid watching youtube videos and making ****ty EDM loops.) 

This is the first time anyone's ever said that anything I wrote was the sanest thing they read under any circumstances, so I hope it wasn't too presumptuous of me to award myself an actual certificate to mark the occasion. 
 

Wow that you are THAT sane is CRAZY - hee hee.
 
It really was a nicely worded post of yours - well done, Sir!
 
Bob Bone
 

Both your posts about the Dance Market market were spot on Sharke. Attracting them, I can only see the benefits for Sonar and the other user bases.
 
A YouTube series showing Sonar only tools (and those that come with it AD2 with real machines for example) and the workflow from start to finish of a danced based track. Even a series covering a few genres from that field would open a few eyes to the prospect of Sonar I'd of thought. 
 
If a respected name or names were bought in to do, and consult on it. A a few weaknesses to the system enhanced (such as in step sequencer and Matrix) so the process was slick, could be made as part of the whole plan.
 
 

Some years back I was at Frankfurt Musikmesse and Brandon Ryan demoed the Matrix, looping stuff and recording the result into tracks. Very slick. And not only for EDM. But as usual, I cannot remember how he did it.
 
Unfortunately the only youtubes I can find on the Matrix are pretty lame by comparison.
 
Edit: Found this, but it's EDM-centric and doesn't go into the same depth.
https://youtu.be/KvuAsX05jUs
https://youtu.be/h3eM2r0ouFo
 
Edit2: Ah, it's important to watch all the "Worlds Collide" videos from the start, not just these two.