• SONAR
  • No new features - just fixes please (p.3)
2016/02/11 17:49:37
rcklln
deswind
If attention for a year could be paid just to glitches and the like, it is fine with me



 
+1
2016/02/11 17:55:11
anxiousmofo
Craig:
 
Additional functionality.  It is a shadow of what it should be.  It only launches clips, whereas competitor products like Ableton or Bitwig allow recording audio or MIDI (via loaded soft synths) into the same slots clips use, doing live looping, triggering recorded live loops on and off, etc.
2016/02/11 18:16:34
Anderton
Thanks for the info, okay, so it's not bugs...I assume whether functionality should be added or not would depend on being able to know how many people use it, and I don't think there's any way to know. As an FYI I use Ableton Live for live performance because it does what it does so well...however it doesn't do what SONAR does, which is why I use SONAR in the studio. I'm not sure how advantageous it would be for SONAR to do what Live does, as opposed to being the ultimate SONAR (which of course involves optimizations). 
2016/02/11 18:24:11
sharke
These "no new features please" sentiments come up fairly often in the forums and I think what a lot of people don't understand is that unless Cakewalk continually attract new users with spanking new features, there won't be any revenue with which to continue fixing bugs. Same thing with the oft-spoken "I don't care for anything aimed at the young EDM crowd, I just use Sonar as a glorified tape machine" comments. They HAVE to remain competitive and that means new features and things aimed at a younger electronic-oriented market. Personally I think they're doing a good job of maintaining a balance. 
2016/02/11 18:27:22
sharke
As for the Matrix, well I think there's a lot that could be done there and I hope the Bakers have it on their agenda. Personally I haven't really taken advantage of it because the first couple of times I tried to use it, Sonar crashed so hard that it locked my whole computer up to the point where I was forced to power down to reboot. I still don't know what was going on there but understandably I've been a little apprehensive about firing it up ever since. I've heard people complaining about it not working as advertised a few times but I don't have any first hand experience of it. I think they ought to be aiming for something that works as well as Ableton's session view. 
 
2016/02/11 18:38:41
bapu
deswind
Just curious if others would agree.  While I paid for a subscription - I am happy if no new synths or features are added.

Exactly where did you pay for a "subscription"?
 
Cakewalk sells annual memberships that you can either pay in full up front or on a monthly payment plan.
 
I see no "subscription" offering from Cakewalk.
2016/02/11 18:40:55
bapu
jatoth
I vote for at least a few months of just fixes and stability issues. NO new features.

Where's the ballot?
 
Have I not been invited to the party?
2016/02/11 18:49:55
arlen2133
rlared
You guys are leaving out a third category, which is "Improvements to existing tools".  Examples would be improvements to:
- Step sequencer
- ACT
- Drum Maps
- PRV
- Take System
- Inspector
- MIDI Arpeggiator
- Browser
- Mixer (why only two views, narrow and wide?  Should be more options so I can see all info on only half of the vertical screen)
 
There's a ton of tools which would benefit from better functionality or a facelift.  


+1
2016/02/11 18:53:36
anxiousmofo
Anderton
Thanks for the info, okay, so it's not bugs...I assume whether functionality should be added or not would depend on being able to know how many people use it, and I don't think there's any way to know. As an FYI I use Ableton Live for live performance because it does what it does so well...however it doesn't do what SONAR does, which is why I use SONAR in the studio. I'm not sure how advantageous it would be for SONAR to do what Live does, as opposed to being the ultimate SONAR (which of course involves optimizations). 




Understood.  I think the point is that it would take some of Ableton's market share and that existing users would not have to pay for two DAW's and attendant upgrade costs.  This frees up funds for continuing with SONAR.  I would also like to see SONAR trounce the competition in many areas, and that would be a step in the right direction.
 
Anyway, enough of my hijacking the thread.  I'm already paid up through Fall 2017 and am hoping SOMETHING positive happens with the Matrix by then.  If it doesn't, I guess I'll have hard decisions to make.
2016/02/11 19:11:25
John T
sharke
These "no new features please" sentiments come up fairly often in the forums and I think what a lot of people don't understand is that unless Cakewalk continually attract new users with spanking new features, there won't be any revenue with which to continue fixing bugs. Same thing with the oft-spoken "I don't care for anything aimed at the young EDM crowd, I just use Sonar as a glorified tape machine" comments. They HAVE to remain competitive and that means new features and things aimed at a younger electronic-oriented market. Personally I think they're doing a good job of maintaining a balance. 


Fo sho.

Myself, about 70% of what I do comes in the "glorified tape machine" category. In that I mainly record and mix bands playing guitars and basses and drums and pianos and so on. But even then, some of the tools aimed at the EDM kids are useful to me, and also, it's 2016, so I find myself occasionally working with those EDM kids.

Honestly, if anyone really wants a machine that never crashes that you can do what you could do in 1995, you can pick up an o2r on ebay for way less than a PC+Sonar+Audio Interface. But nobody does that. Because nobody *really* wants that. Spend a day in 02R world, and you'll soon become free of nostalgia.
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