• SONAR
  • panup's most & least used SONAR features
2016/03/05 18:46:22
panup
panup is using a lot
  • TV for mixing
  • audio multitrack recording
  • split and nudge during playback
  • RME UFX and FF800
  • External Insert
  • audio metronome
  • Melodyne region fx
  • Tools | External audio editor (Audition)
  • Volume automation
  • File | Export Audio | RAW tracks
  • Track Templates
  • Track Folders
  • Snap to/by
  • PDC (custom keyboard shortcut Num Key Minus)
  • My special favorite keyboard shortcuts F7 and F8 to move now time to start / end of the selection.
  • My second secret weapon: keyboard shortcuts 1 and 2 to move to previous / next marker.
  • Weapon 3: keys F5 and F6 to toggle audio metronome (playback / recording)
  • Shift-F - fit to screen
  • FX bin
  • Crossfade on/off (keyboard shortcut X)
  • Aim Assistant
  • Self-made color schemes
  • Self-made UI graphics
 
Using on regular basis:
  • ProChannel (almost always set to pre FX bin to keep workflow consistent)
  • Automation lanes when using anything else than output volumeSysx view
  • Groups, grouping
  • Sysx view (to send patches to rack synths)
  • Console view
  • Piano Roll
  • Step record (to play parts that are too difficult for realtime recording)
  • Project/info (to store song lyrics, chords, etc.)
  • Save as... (Alt-F - A)
  • Inspector (floating on the 2nd display)
  • Apply Effect | Quantize MIDI
  • Apply Effect | Gain (my keyboard shortcut Ctrl-G)
  • Control Bar: Tools, Transport, Mix, Event Inspector (40% empty space for my own buttons)
  • Markers
  • Tempo changes
  • Track Manager: I keep only archived tracks hidden.
  • Console View | Widen / Narrow strips
 
Uses sometimes:
  • Step sequencer (I bounce to clip asap to avoid problems.)
  • VocalSync
  • Aux tracks, Patch points (they'll become part of the workflow slower than I though)
  • Set Measure/Beat time at now
  • Different track automation write modes
  • ProChannel Console Emulators
  • CAL scripts (embedded in Duckbar's KVAK scripts)
  • Different Pan Laws (I would use all the time if it was in easier location.)
  • Browser (floating on the 2nd display)
He does not use:
  • Exclusive solo, Dim solo
  • Envelope offset mode
  • Punch mode (manual punch in/out is better)
  • Loop record (too many bad experiences)
  • Take lanes as designed (got used to the old system and still struggling with the renovation)
  • Track control manager (Always 'All')
  • Mix Recall (but I love the concept and I will definitely start using this.)
  • ACT (tried long time ago but there were always issues)
  • Inline PRV (big PRV on the 2nd display is better
  • Groove Loops (I rarely use loops)
  • Loop editor
  • ReWire (I use FL Studio as VSTi instead)
  • Virtual Keyboard (got real one)
  • Drum Maps
  • Playlists
  • Lyrics
  • Video
  • Screensets
  • Add Track (keyboard shortcuts and track templates do the job)
  • AudioSnap (too complicated - manual editing is faster and more reliable)
  • Drum Replacer (I use Melodyne to convert audio to MIDI)
  • MultiDock (dual screen - no need and I often keep MultiDock bar hidden)
  • Full Screen (except when doing mobile recordings on my old laptop)
  • Start screen (when creating or openingn projects I have no time to read the news feed)
  • Staff view
  • Matrix view (no need)
  • Edit/history (I would use if there were more details and timestamps)
  • Save Copy (not used - I would if I wasn't typing Alt-S A automatically)
  • Utilities: Consolidate Audio, Clean audio folder, Change audio format, Share with SoundCloud
  • Burn Audio CD (too limited - no ISRC codes etc.)
  • File | Print, Print preview, Print setup
  • Import Audio CD (I use CDEx instead to convert CD to WAV or MP3)
  • Import Video (I do all video related works in other apps)
  • File | Revert (I would never remeber where I would revert to.)
  • Help, documentation (does somebody really read manuals?)
  • Project | Audio files (needs total redesign)
  • Project | Info | Stats (buried too far away and the font is too small and there's no fancy graphics and.. and...)
  • Touch screen
  • Absolute timebase
 
Most used Cakewalk plug-ins:
  • Sonitus:Gate
  • Sonitus:Compressor
  • Sonitus:Modulator
  • PC76
  • PC S-Type Compressor
  • QuadEQ
  • Percussion Strip (Shaper module to tweak live snare drum)
  • Channel Tools
 
I'm using only a small fraction of the feature set.
Discount, please.
 
EDIT: minor corrections.
EDIT2: Last sentence changed and topic renamed.
EDIT3: updated list.
 
2016/03/05 19:02:09
Paul P
 
I guess you don't value your privacy
 
 
2016/03/05 19:54:32
Vastman
OMG... you've just made public all the information NSA has ever wanted, not to mention the identity thieves and competing DAW manufacturers... DO YOU REALIZE WHAT YOU'VE DONE???
 
from this point on you are nothing more than:
  • A human doing amazing things with Sonar
  • A tool of corporate brainwashers... you've given them EVERYTHING to control you better
  • A willing accomplice to those who'd destroy our FREEEEEEDUMB!!!
Please, panup... DON'T continue revealing such stuff... you'll destroy everything we still have left... And just THINK how much the evil bakers can make selling this precious data to... um... competing daw designers, maybe??? 
 
And you EXPECT a discount for NOT using MORE???
 

 
 
 
OMG! This just made me realize how foolish I've been to post all the info in my sig... I've been tricked by fellow forum members, obviously working surreptitiously for "The Man" to get me to reveal this information... arrrrrrrrrggggg!@!!!!!@!@
2016/03/05 20:07:58
Beepster
Oh look. More reductio ad absurdum with a generous helping of innuendo and ad hominem for dessert.
 
Delicious.
 
Calm down, Vastman.
2016/03/05 20:13:13
Vastman
Panup made me chuckel... and he has helped remind me that laughing at absurdity feels better than getting upset... we all have a bit of absurdity within us and it is a wise human who gets in touch with their own... most just take offense and never grow...
2016/03/05 20:22:35
tenfoot
Hahaha - self reported analytics. Given our innate ability to present information without exageration or bias what could possibly go wrong? 
 
I see a skewed bell curve in Sonars future.
 
EDIT: in light of the unfortunate timing of my post due to slow typing on a tablet, just to be clear I am commenting on the OP by pan up:)
2016/03/05 20:29:35
Beepster
Vastman
Sometimes laughing at absurdity feels good... we all have a bit of absurdity within us and it is a wise human who gets in touch with their own... most just take offense and never grow...


 
You take hateful pot shots at people you disagree with to "feel good"? That's not healthy.
 
It also does absolutely NOTHING to help Cake, this forum or anything you claim to be so concerned about.
 
Much of it could also be construed as being in direct violation of the TOS.
 
Don't talk to me about "growth" and "wisdom".
 
Edit: And I see you've edited your post to soften it a little. Good.
 
PS: Don't ever call me out like I'm some kind of troll scumbag again. You bloody well know I'm not.
2016/03/05 20:48:57
TheMaartian
My analyst told me
That I was right out of my head
The way he described it
He said I'd be better dead than live
I didn't listen to his jive
I knew all along
That he was all wrong
And I knew that he thought
I was crazy but I'm not
Oh no

My analyst told me
That I was right out of my head
He said I'd need treatment
But I'm not that easily led
He said I was the type
That was most inclined
When out of his sight
To be out of my mind
And he thought I was nuts
No more ifs or ands or buts

They say as a child
I appeared a little bit wild
With all my crazy ideas
But I knew what was happening
I knew I was a genius...
What's so strange when you know
That you're a wizard at three
I knew that this was meant to be

Now I heard little children
Were supposed to sleep tight
That's why I got into the vodka one night
My parents got frantic
Didn't know what to do
But I saw some crazy scenes
Before I came to
Now do you think I was crazy
I may have been only three
But I was swinging

They all laugh at angry young men
They all laugh at Edison
And also at Einstein
So why should I feel sorry
If they just couldn't understand
The idiomatic logic
That went on in my head
I had a brain
It was insane
Oh they used to laugh at me
When I refused to ride
On all those double decker buses
All because there was no driver on the top

My analyst told me
That I was right out of my head
But I said dear doctor
I think that it's you instead
Because I have got a thing
That's unique and new
To prove it I'll have
The last laugh on you
'Cause instead of one head
I got two
And you know two heads are better than one.
 
Songwriters: WARDELL GRAY, ANNIE ROSS ANNABELLE SHORT
Twisted lyrics © RAYBIRD MUSIC, INC.
2016/03/05 20:49:58
Vastman
my my... really?  listen beep... I've read posts where you've given great information to people trying to understand things...I respect you for your insights and willingness to take the time to share with others, like the thread on take lanes I looked at just yesterday...  
 
However, the premature rants on analytics by some were pretty ludicrous... at least in my opinion.  I said how stupid I thought it was... and panup's post helped me see it's better to just laugh about this and here you are again getting all up in a snot. FWIW, I've never gone back to the thread as I realize how ridiculous and unhealthy it is to participate in a bunch of blather...
 
Oh, and I will speak of growth and wisdom... and I DO edit my posts...for every moment is an opportunity for growth and wisdom... I'm not here to take offense... it accomplishes nothing...I reflect and modify where it seems appropriate.  While I try and stay clear of senseless bashing I will continue to call out what I consider disrespectful and premature comments on information the bakers are sharing.  "Construe" all you want.  It's obviously easier than taking to heart what's being said.  BTW, I don't consider you "some kind of troll scumbag"... those are your words...and to think I've sorted you out to pick on??? Really? Hubris...my 15 year old does that a lot!
 
I made ONE post saying I thought the anti analytics stuff was premature and reflects the absurdity rampant in today's society...I laughed at how you kept saying you had things to do and had to go and then kept posting premature stuff, quoting others premature concerns... and since then you've gone ballistic... calling me a fanboi...that I'm horrible, I've got it in for you, violating the TOS, claiming that I'm just a fanboy that I always support cakewalk and blah blah blah, all untrue...you're like a little child with an overly sensitive or insecure ego...grow up!   At this point I'm going to waste no more of my time responding or reading anything you have to say...as...
 
I just realized we have a block feature!  First time for everything!  Goodbye... time is too precious...and I dislike blather...
 
 
On a lighter front: 
The Maartain... great set of words... have written lots about the insanity of the world...and the boxes we all get into.  It's a challenge every day to sort reality from fiction...all the bits, the twists and turns...and to chose how to focus within the sea of the absurd and beautiful aspects of all that is!
 
Music and poetry is a fantastic coping mechanism... 
2016/03/05 21:10:38
Beepster
Maybe you SHOULD go back into that thread and read what you posted to me and then my followup about WHY my posts were as they were.
 
Hint: I was in bed trying to get some damned sleep, just like I said I needed to when you decided to insult and pick a fight with me WELL after I'd left the thread.
 
And my inital thoughts were NOT premature. If anything the followups confirmed everything I was thinking and more. Of course the debate has become so toxic due to dismissive comments like yours anything I say now will just be pointless.
 
Check your damned rage and your manners.
 
Snot indeed.
 
PS: I am again... off to bed and have said what I wanted to say to you. You can either accept or spazz out or make more insinuations about my character... I don't care. You will be talking to yourself.
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