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2016/02/06 23:06:47
joey90405
hello everyone, i don't understand the whole take lane thing, i don't like them at all. this is what's going on, i have 3 vox tracks, i want to work on them however when i mute all of them i still hear them, i thought i set up recording them without the take lanes, WRONG i see i have a take lane for each track. first i tried to delete them, can't do that because the parent track gets deleted, i tried to mute just the take lanes, that does not work either. i'm about to loose my mind, i never had this with X-2, life was great, now it sucks. can someone please, please help me with this. i want to be able to record ONE track at a time.
thanks, i'm nuts in chicago
jp 
2016/02/09 04:21:13
Saxon1066
Welcome to the club of take-lane haters.  Track layers were so much better.
2016/02/09 06:12:12
fireberd
I have a mental block with take lanes too.  I've watched videos on this and I'm still lost.
2016/02/09 07:34:59
olemon
Take Lanes were confusing to me at first too, and it took me a while to understand what was going on with them.
 
joey90405
hello everyone, i don't understand the whole take lane thing, i don't like them at all. this is what's going on, i have 3 vox tracks, i want to work on them however when i mute all of them i still hear them, i thought i set up recording them without the take lanes, WRONG i see i have a take lane for each track. first i tried to delete them, can't do that because the parent track gets deleted, i tried to mute just the take lanes, that does not work either. i'm about to loose my mind, i never had this with X-2, life was great, now it sucks. can someone please, please help me with this. i want to be able to record ONE track at a time.
thanks, i'm nuts in chicago
jp 

 
I'm not sure I can help you, and I'm not sure I completely understand your post, but I am sure these problems can be solved.
 
In Preferences you have Overwrite selected and not Comping.
 
You recorded three separate vocal tracks.  You may have looped and recorded several takes of each vocal track, but because Overwrite was selected those previous takes were overwritten and you were left with the last recorded clip.
 
On those three vocal tracks, when you click the Take Lane icon, each of those tracks has just one Take Lane.
 
Is the above accurate?
 

I believe there will always be at least one Take Lane on an audio track.  It's just another way of viewing the audio clip.  If you delete that one and only Take Lane, you may be deleting the one and only clip on that audio track.
 
As far as muting a Take Lane and still hearing it, that's puzzling to me.
 
Are you able to post some screen captures of your Console or Track views?  Whether it's me or one of the real Sonar gurus on this site who respond, those pictures are often helpful.
2016/02/09 08:55:58
joey90405
Saxon1066
Welcome to the club of take-lane haters.  Track layers were so much better.


yes sir ree bob
2016/02/09 09:23:06
kb420
I know that there are some users here that absolutely love Take Lanes.  Personally,  I just want the option to COMPLETELY disable them.  There should be that option for those of us that find them to be cumbersome.
2016/02/09 09:26:24
Beepster
If you're muting the tracks and you still hear the audio something else is going on. This has nothing to do with lanes because even if you had multiple lanes playing back at once (which I'm assuming is what you think is happening) muting the track would mute ALL of the audio coming from the track's main output.
 
What is most likely happening is you have a send on the tracks going to something like a reverb bus. So when you mute the track that signal is still getting sent to the bus.
 
The only way to deal with that (and I'm not even sure if this works... I'd have to double check) is to set your send(s) to Post Fader (because I think that then the send comes after the mute button in the chain so no signal hits it when you mute the track). That of course can screw up your sends scheme (because now your fader affects how much signal is being sent from the send as well... not just the track's main output).
 
What I generally do is just mute any busses receiving signals from Pre Fader Sends if I need to listen in to something.
 
So yeah... this REALLY does not sound like a lanes thing. That doesn't make sense.
 
You also had another thread where you were complaining of "ghosted" vocals remaining audible when you soloed other tracks. Again that seemed to be due to having sends.
 
However maybe your interface has some kind of weird monitoring/headphone mix feature(s) that are causing this. As in you are getting two signals. One that's a direct signal fram the Master/Mains and another that's some direct monitoring thing or submix from inside your interface software.
2016/02/09 09:31:05
olemon
I should add that the way I was thinking about Take Lanes was part of my problem, but the major confusion had to do with what happened when I stopped recording during a take and all of the previous takes were suddenly split at that point.  What a mess!
 
But, each of those split takes (clips) contain the original take in its entirety.  You can simply select one of those clips and delete it, not the Take Lane itself, but the extra clip that was created within that Take Lane.  Then, slip edit the remaining clip by dragging it out and all of the audio for that take will be there.
 
Why it works that way I don't know, but once I discovered that it did, Take Lanes were no longer confusing.
2016/02/09 09:31:54
Beepster
kb420
I know that there are some users here that absolutely love Take Lanes.  Personally,  I just want the option to COMPLETELY disable them.  There should be that option for those of us that find them to be cumbersome.




Right click on the Record Button in the Transport module and select "Overwrite". That will record over old parts instead of create new "takes". Or if you mean get rid of the "Comping" scheme but still be able to create multiple takes select "Sound On Sound".
 
You could also go into Preferences and choose the option "Record New Takes in a New Track" or whatever it's called. That will create a new track for each pass you record.
 
All the old options are still there from X2. So the recordings still go into "Lanes" but they'll behave like they did before X3 introduced Comping.
 
Cheers.
2016/02/09 09:37:32
olemon
Beepster
If you're muting the tracks and you still hear the audio something else is going on. 



Yeah, it's happened to me.  Once I had a hidden track I forgot to mute....
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