tenfoot
I am a big fan of take lanes now,  but early in their release they did have some quirks that I think may have put people off.  This and people never reading the manual to learn to use them properly could well be why some hold them in a bad light. 

i know i am one of those who did not RTFM to learn take lanes correctly . . . but i was busy!

wetdentist

tenfoot
I am a big fan of take lanes now,  but early in their release they did have some quirks that I think may have put people off.  This and people never reading the manual to learn to use them properly could well be why some hold them in a bad light. 

i know i am one of those who did not RTFM to learn take lanes correctly . . . but i was busy!

Hahaha -  fair enough!   Well worth another visit when you get time:) 

Yeah, me too, experienced a disastrous loss of a whole bunch of audio.  After which I made this note in my mixing notebook:  MORE THAN ONE COMP ON ONE TRACK IS DANGEROUS!  Since then, as alluded to above, I don't "flatten" or do anything to these lanes/tracks, but simply cobble them together to get the best overall take I can assemble, and send their output to an aux-track, and record it all as a new track.  Simple.  No Kablooey.

Long-time Sonar user, Platinum subscriber, have recorded many albums in Sonar over the years. After reading this and trying to modify my workflow I am fed up with it. Track layers were a little buggy sometimes, but oh how I miss how they behaved. I just don't understand this.

I've been putting together a vid "series" about comping but have gotten distracted by some other junk. I'll post it when it's ready. Hopefully it'll explain how to navigate Lanes and the Comp Tool efficiently.
 
As far as audio disappearing after performing multiple comps in a single track... I have NEVER had that happen and I do it all the time.

Recording multiple takes into one track, has been a part of Sonar since...Sonar 8? X1?
 
The fact that the behavior of those takes now requires a video series to understand is ridiculous. I used track layers to A/B takes, which was easy enough to do with the Solo and Mute buttons. Track layers were an amazing addition when they happened - I loved them. Now? Shaking my head.

jonboper
Recording multiple takes into one track, has been a part of Sonar since...Sonar 8? X1?
 
The fact that the behavior of those takes now requires a video series to understand is ridiculous.

 
Hey Jonboper. It's great that Beeps is going to the trouble of doing the vids, and I have no doubt they will be very helpful,  but it is not really true to say that you NEED a video to learn take lanes and comping. It is one of those features that seems impossibly confusing if you jump right in expecting everything to work the same as previous versions,  but a little reading and you will be comping like a champ in no time!  Absolutely everything you need to know is on Pages 468 - 499 of the Sonar User Guide pdf, and there is not much on each page so it doesn't take long at all to get through.  I too was infuriated by take lanes when I first tried to use them.  Now I wouldn't be without them. 

For new takes: Right click your track -> Lanes -> Show/Hide Takes
For old lanes: Right click your track -> Lanes -> Show/Hide Lanes

Delete a take lane: Bottom left of take lane, there are two stacked buttons. The topmost is Delete. Buttons will not show if lane is not expanded enough.

Still hearing sound when muted: check sends.

tenfoot

jonboper
Recording multiple takes into one track, has been a part of Sonar since...Sonar 8? X1?
 
The fact that the behavior of those takes now requires a video series to understand is ridiculous.

Absolutely everything you need to know is on Pages 468 - 499 of the Sonar User Guide pdf, and there is not much on each page so it doesn't take long at all to get through.

You mean the Sonar Reference Guide, not the User guide.
 
I think you're understating the hidden complexity here. Things that don't get explicitly covered in the guide because if you don't have the specific use case of "I have multiple takes of the same performance and I am comping the whole track out of them", then the guide doesn't acknowledge you. Nor does it deal with the hidden pitfalls. eg.

• You record measures 1-20, then later record measures 19-40, with a small and deliberate overlap. Your first take gets truncated if you're in Comping mode, even though 'comping' is not the intention here.
• You record a verse and a chorus separately. You comp the verse, flatten comp. Now all your chorus takes are muted. There are several ways to dig yourself out of that problem, each of them painful. And when you comp the chorus, it'll mute your old comped verse! It's like playing whack-a-mole with muted comp sections. The new 'rules' say you must only comp once, once you've recorded everything, and you must do it for the whole track. This is not user-friendly.
• You drag a 3 measure clip into a take lane over the top of a 2 measure clip by accident, and then drag it to where you really meant it to be. What you might not have noticed is that you've now destroyed your 2 measure clip. (A less catastrophic version exists where the 2 clips merely overlap; at least you can slip-edit it back later when you realise your error.)
• There are some new and fun bugs (take lane mute states don't always return to how they were before when you use Undo, drag and drop to take lanes seems to be a lucky dip regarding where things end up)

On the whole I can't see that the Take Lanes and their interaction with the Comping record mode are anything other than a step backwards from the simpler but more reliable Layers.

I appreciate that the new lanes are cool for some, but the problems I'm running into (Kylotan illustrates some of them very well) have me creating new tracks...projects are more cluttered than they were on X-series Sonar.
 
Thank you for the pages for reference tenfoot, I'll certainly read those.