• SONAR
  • SONAR And Keystation Pro 88 Shared Presets Collaboration. (p.5)
2008/09/27 23:14:33
thomasabarnes
ORIGINAL: John

It is my experience with ACT that you need to have the ACT properties page open in order to assign anything to anything. Once that is done it can be closed. Thats the one with the all the boxes for assigning controls. Its not all that intuitive for new users.


I'm explaining how to assign controllers via remote control, in post #37. No Control Surface plug ins need to be connected to assign MIDI controllers via remote control. One just needs to right click the GUI control one wants to assign to a MIDI controller, select Remote Control, press the Learn button, move the MIDI control on the MIDI control Surface one wants to control the GUI control, and accept the assignment. This will assign the MIDI controller to operate the GUI control in SONAR.


With that said, I still say: we can use some help from a Cakewalk rep.
2008/09/28 04:39:13
Wookiee
Should get my pro keys back today, look forward to doing some testing.

ORIGINAL: Space_Cowboy.

Wookiee
You can talk!
In every post I have seen you in, you had some strange sign language, like this


Yes,


2008/09/28 14:04:54
Wookiee
Thank you thomasabarnes

Got my pro keys back and am testing your configuration under ACT

Will let you know but so far so good
2008/09/28 14:47:09
dumbarranger56
thanks for the sharing. I will try and let you know.
2008/10/04 22:00:20
thomasabarnes
Update:

It seems there was a problem with the .cwp file included with the 1st setup zip I made available. I don't know why I can't share a SONAR project without users having a problem with the setup files working as intended. I even had a problem with the sysex message transmitting successfully, at a point in time. I have decided to have users just load a Cakewalk project template to use with the presets in this setup file zip. Hopefully, things will work better and more consistently as intended. Instead of sending a SysEx transmission from a Cakewalk Project to load the needed preset for the Keystation Pro 88, I have included an Enigma preset that can be loaded into the Keystaion Pro 88 by using Enigma. I hope some users can try the new setup files and report your experience here. If things go as intended, I can make more presets available which will cover controlling more than just 8 tracks and basic track parameters.

Here's the link to download the zip: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/thomasabarnes@att.net/lst?.dir=/Shared+Files&.order=&.view=l&.src=bc&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/
2008/10/10 08:27:17
Qwerty69
Howdy Mr Barnes -

First of all, thank you very much for your efforts in putting this all together. Here are my top-line experiences -

1. The Enigma preset seems to work quite well, with one exception - slider C1 remained mapped to another CC#. Enigma showed a mapping for CC#75, but this didn't come through on repeated synchs and recalls of preset #10.
2. C2 and C8 both seem to have a different logarithmic scale applied to the slider compared to C1, C3-C7 and C9. Where the majority of these controls place the 100 value 80% of the way to the top of the slider's travel, C2 is at 100 around 15% of the way up, (ie. right at the bottom), and C8 is just under the midway point.
3. In your readme.txt file, you say "pressing one of these buttons" will either mute or solo a track, (B44-B51 and C52-C59 respectively). My experience is that you need to press the button twice for it to change state. I am not sure if this is what you intended or not.
4. The MMC controls seem to map correctly.

A couple of thoughts -

1. I wonder whether or not the FF and REW buttons, (A39 and A40), would be better mapped to jog forward and back by a bar?
2. I can't get this configuration to takeover a plugin's controls. I don't know whether this is outside the scope of this test process.
3. I do sort of agree with an earlier poster who thought using B18-B25 to control Send Level #1 and B10-B17 for Send Level #2 would be more intuitive. So said, this is neither here nor there...

An off-topic question for you - are you using Vista 32 or 64-bit? I cannot get Enigma v1.2 to work in Vista x64 so I am using Windows XP 32 SP3 for these tests.

Nice work!

Ciao,

Q.
2008/10/10 09:11:10
Qwerty69
Regarding the third point in the first set of experiences above, I think the Cakewalk Generic Surface plugin needs to be set under MIDI MESSAGE INTERPRETATION to be "On/Off" not "Literally/Toggle".

Making that change means that you press the button once and the state of the MUTE and SOLO immediately changes without requiring the second button press.

Ciao,

Q.
2008/10/29 22:04:47
alxi
Interesting thread.

I also have problems with my PS88. It keeps loosing the preset i do in the act learn page. It's not asking me if i want to keep the changes. I'm not using it for the volume, pan and send, i allready have a control surface for that. Anyway can get it to work. Anyone with the same problem, or anyone with a solution ?

Thanks

-Alxi-
2008/10/29 22:53:44
thomasabarnes

I'm taking a break from trying to figure out this ACT matter. I can't seem to get my shared presets to work right for other users.

There is a preset for the Keystation Pro 88 in SONAR 8, but it requires a user to use the ACT learn feature.

ORIGINAL: alxi

Interesting thread.

I also have problems with my PS88. It keeps loosing the preset i do in the act learn page. It's not asking me if i want to keep the changes.


I don't recall the ACT GUI ever asking me to save changes. I think you just have to save your presets manually by clicking the save disk icon to the right of the Presets dropdown menu in the ACT GUI.
2008/11/24 17:15:03
Chipster
Wow! I've love it. So easy a blind guy can do it. However, I load the preset in to my ks, via Enigma, but when I turn my rig off, and come back it's not saved. Is there something I have to do to retain it to memory? I've tried reading the manual, but I am totally blind, and the pdf just shows some graphics, which my screen reader can't read. After I send the enima preset to the ks, do I need to store it?
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