Simple question that I couldn't seem to find the answer to and I'm hoping someone here knows. Does X1 work with HUI control surfaces? If yes, are there any restrictions or crippling. If HUI does not work with X1 then what are some of the best alternative control surfaces that will work? Thanks guys

http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._MIDI_mapping_protocol

The HUI(tm) MIDI mapping protocol is an open communications protocol for interfacing between a hardware audio control surface and digital audio workstation (DAW) software. The protocol allows a DAW and a connected hardware control surface to exchange Midi signals that synchronize the states of their (virtual) sliders, buttons, wheels, and displays. The user can write console automation which can then be seen in the DAW.

For those not familiar with the term (I wasn't).

HUI doesn't support SONAR, and SONAR doesn't support HUI as HUI was developed for a a specific tool. Mackie's open protocol, which SONAR does support, is Mackie Control Universal. SONAR also supports Roland's V-Studio 700, Euphonix Artist series, and of course the various Mackie Controls out there.

Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
]

HUI doesn't support SONAR, and SONAR doesn't support HUI as HUI was developed for a a specific tool. Mackie's open protocol, which SONAR does support, is Mackie Control Universal. SONAR also supports Roland's V-Studio 700, Euphonix Artist series, and of course the various Mackie Controls out there.

Seth,
Interesting response - -  "HUI doesn't support Sonar".  Are you willing to elaborate on what HUI is or isn't as far as Sonar goes? (Curiosity, simply!)
 
Thanks, Brian

Stone House Studios

Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
]

HUI doesn't support SONAR, and SONAR doesn't support HUI as HUI was developed for a a specific tool. Mackie's open protocol, which SONAR does support, is Mackie Control Universal. SONAR also supports Roland's V-Studio 700, Euphonix Artist series, and of course the various Mackie Controls out there.

Seth,
Interesting response - -  "HUI doesn't support Sonar".  Are you willing to elaborate on what HUI is or isn't as far as Sonar goes? (Curiosity, simply!)
 
Thanks, Brian

HUI is a protocol that Mackie developed for Pro Tools. AFAIK it only works with PT, but soon after its development Mackie developed its Universal protocol to work with SONAR and all of the other non-PT DAWs. the MCU protocol is open and many non-Mackie devices emulate it.

So in short, they don't work together and no one makes a worth wild control surface that would work with X1. That really sucks.

I have no clue what it entails but you guys should work on that. Seems like it keeps Sonar out of the pro market. Is there any other DAW that doesn't support HUI? I think S1, Nuendo, Logic and Reaper all support it. Maybe I'm wrong though...

Is there are reason why Cakewalk has decided to not support HUI?

I'd really like to stay here when I get my SSL AWS+ SE but obviously that's not going to happen if I can't use it to full capacity.

TheSteven


http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._MIDI_mapping_protocol

The HUI(tm) MIDI mapping protocol is an open communications protocol for interfacing between a hardware audio control surface and digital audio workstation (DAW) software. The protocol allows a DAW and a connected hardware control surface to exchange Midi signals that synchronize the states of their (virtual) sliders, buttons, wheels, and displays. The user can write console automation which can then be seen in the DAW.

For those not familiar with the term (I wasn't).

HUI stands for Human User Interface. It is a Mackie controller for Pro Tools. Some DAWs do support it other then PT. Most do not.

full_bleed


So in short, they don't work together and no one makes a worth wild control surface that would work with X1. That really sucks.

I have no clue what it entails but you guys should work on that. Seems like it keeps Sonar out of the pro market. Is there any other DAW that doesn't support HUI? I think S1, Nuendo, Logic and Reaper all support it. Maybe I'm wrong though...

Is there are reason why Cakewalk has decided to not support HUI?

I'd really like to stay here when I get my SSL AWS+ SE but obviously that's not going to happen if I can't use it to full capacity.

There are tons of good control surfaces that support SONAR. The Mackie HUI is a very old control surface and is more or less outdated. The HUI controller itself must be at least a decade old.

Euphonix, SSL, Roland, Mackie, Presonus, Frontier, and more all make surfaces that use either MCU or their own protocols that work in SONAR. Frankly, adding HUI support to SONAR would be a waste of precious development resources considering we already fully support Mackie's dominant Universal protocol.

Maybe I'll call over at SSL and find out if the AWS will work with MCU and if it does if there's any difference in resolution.

Btw, thanks for your quick response Seth. I wasn't expecting to get an answer so soon.