Technology has to "learn" like real engineers do. At first, the technology will lack the skills and experience. But over time, it can improve to encompass many more nuances of the skills it requires to do a job that is essentially an art.

With that said, Siri is still relatively lame when it comes to mere conversation.

THambrecht
I just sent an unready song (with headroom) to LANDR and got a completely bad result without any brillance.
Especially the result sounded mushy. LANDR sounds to me like a cheap compressor and a cheap equalizer.
The result sounds rather worse than the original.
Within 3 minutes and Universal Audio Plugins I get a brilliant balanced result which is much better than LANDR.
LANDR does not replace a Manley Massive Passive or a Fairchild Limiter.
Then maybe it's better for many people to get an TC Finalizer, which will be paid only once.
 
 
 

Now you have my interest .
Since you have done all of that ,
What are the chances of you posting the before and after results for educational purposes ?  ..a few small song snippets you can pull down when it has served its purpose  ....
Last but not least , have you tried LANDR on the file that you yourself pre Mastered with all your go to plugs ?
inquiring minds would like to know how LANDR did on those files
 
Kenny

Kenny, previews are free. Try some of your own files and see what happens. Just remember to start with the low intensity setting. Not everyone wants to sound like Metallica 

Here's how I tried it...
 
1. Disabled the PC on the master bus
2. Bounced the mix to a track and selected about 60 seconds and split the clip at the range ends and faded the ends of the clip.
3. Sent it up to LANDR
4. Logged into LANDR and created an Account.
5. Logged into my email and verified my email address
6. Went back to the LANDR website and clicked through 4-5 pages of stuff
7. Listened to my track with different settings, Low Medium High
8. Measured the EBU Loudness using the RME EBU Meter and noticed Low was at -13 and high was around -8 dB.
 
It was interesting but I don't think I want to pay $300 a year for Wavs or $100 for MP3s.

The only thing I like about this version is the add new track feature (and that's hardly mindblowing.) I am very happy with the Manchester version that I've got and I think I will keep with that for a while. The mastering feature is a bit of a non starter for me. But hats off to the bakers for getting us this far - i love Sonar.

So what is this software doing to determin what to do with a piece of music? How does it work? Does it analize simularly to how a mastering engineer would hear or listen a piece of music. I am curious to know what it actually does.

gswitz
Here's how I tried it...
 
1. Disabled the PC on the master bus
2. Bounced the mix to a track and selected about 60 seconds and split the clip at the range ends and faded the ends of the clip.
3. Sent it up to LANDR
4. Logged into LANDR and created an Account.
5. Logged into my email and verified my email address
6. Went back to the LANDR website and clicked through 4-5 pages of stuff
7. Listened to my track with different settings, Low Medium High
8. Measured the EBU Loudness using the RME EBU Meter and noticed Low was at -13 and high was around -8 dB.
 
It was interesting but I don't think I want to pay $300 a year for Wavs or $100 for MP3s.

Thanks for that.
 
So this doesn't even spit out any useable files unless you pay? Just let's you listen to samples on their site?
 
This should be a separate installer. If I want to check it out I'll do so. I don't want it part of the main package.
 
Sorry if that's cranky but c'mon.

gswitz
It was interesting but I don't think I want to pay $300 a year for Wavs or $100 for MP3s.

If you aren't interested in an annual plan why not go month to month our even ala carte? They allow you to pay per master as well. See https://www.landr.com/en/pricing
 
If you only need to master infrequently this is the most affordable way to go

Beepster
So this doesn't even spit out any useable files unless you pay? Just let's you listen to samples on their site?

Not unless you consider two 192 kb MP3s a month as usable. Seriously, they are talking about improving the quality of the sound and then the baseline is 192 kb files -- and only 2 a month?
 
In reality, the entry point is $108 per year.  That gives you unlimited 320 kb MP3s which is at least reasonable sound quality.  If one is really using 192 kb compressed files, why bother to master at all?

the brilliant Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
 
If you aren't interested in an annual plan why not go month to month our even ala carte? They allow you to pay per master as well. See https://www.landr.com/en/pricing
 
If you only need to master infrequently this is the most affordable way to go

Totally, Noel, I'm with you.
 
I'm continuing to futz with it. Smart people say check it out. I'm checking. What do I know about mastering? Nothing. I've never produced a CD that I could reliably give away, much less sell. Ha ha.
 
But, man I bounce a lot of tracks. Probably 60+ a month. Ala carte would make sense if I worked really hard on one song that I was aiming to sell. For me, I like all the songs on the disk to be kinda similar listening volume and compression.
 
So, my next steps included making another sample and recording the Low-Medium-High versions into Sonar. I lined up all 3 with my original 'master' so that I could use exclusive solo to switch between them.
 
I dropped a Melda EQ which allows me to drag the audio from the various versions into the EQ for inspection. LANDR bumped between 2 and 10 kHz between 1-5 dB depending on the intensity and cut steeply above 18. Not sure if this cut is related to the Low Quality MP3 version I could audition or if it's a mastering thing.
 
This shows me the EQ Setting - This is roughly the same for Low-Medium-High. I ignored the high cut thinking it was the low quality MP3 doing that.
23 Hz Q 1.19 Gain -5.01
3097 Hz Q 0.81 Gain +4.19
 
Master EBU = -14 dB - Mine
Low EBU = -13.5 dB - LANDR
Medium EBU = -10.2 dB - LANDR
High EBU = -7.9 dB - LANDR