I think it would be best to have the LANDR installation/integration listed as a separate install item in C3.

I'm not sure about the bloat-ware complaint.
 
There is no real code installed so far as I can tell to do LANDR related mastering. The only code would be to export the WAVE and upload it to LANDR which can't be much code. Then open the LANDR web page. This is not taking up 100 MB of space; I can't imagine how it could.
 
LANDR's worth exploring. I found it painless. Who knows, maybe I'll pay them to master something.
 
http://stabilitynetwork.blob.core.windows.net/g-tunes/20130313_Susan_01_RainingAgain.mp3
 
Became this...
 
http://stabilitynetwork.blob.core.windows.net/g-tunes/20130313_Susan_01_RainingAgain_LANDR.mp3
 
There is very little difference in EQ on these tunes.
 
The LANDR version is 0.8 dB louder on the EBU meter, so if you want to compare, reduce the volume of the LANDR version by 0.8.
 
This image shows how MAutoEqualizer would set the Equalizer on the original track to try to bring it to be more like the LANDR track.
 

irvin
I don't like the addition of "features" that require extra payment.

LANDR does not require extra payment. It offers several free features. It also offers optional services that require payment. Other programs call this "in-app purchases."

gswitz
 
LANDR's worth exploring. I found it painless. Who knows, maybe I'll pay them to master something.
 
http://stabilitynetwork.blob.core.windows.net/g-tunes/20130313_Susan_01_RainingAgain.mp3
 
Became this...
 
http://stabilitynetwork.blob.core.windows.net/g-tunes/20130313_Susan_01_RainingAgain_LANDR.mp3

 
That's exactly what I would have done - get rid of the tubbiness on the drums, and bring up the vocals. That's quite impressive. Did you use the low, medium, or high setting?
 

Anderton
That's exactly what I would have done - get rid of the tubbiness on the drums, and bring up the vocals. That's quite impressive. Did you use the low, medium, or high setting?

 
You showing off there, Craig? :-P
 
Jk.
 
I used the low setting. Also, for comparison, I imported my MP3 to compare with their MP3. My MP3 was 3.97 MB and theirs was 3.86, so fairly close.
 
Did you like the song, BTW? It's a Susan Original. I helped some instrumentation (doubled her acoustic, bass, synth, lead gtr).

LANDR?!! No thanks.

You know the other thing I hadn't considered, is you could prob go in on a subscription with friends.
 
What say you? A coffee house subscription? ;-)

Anderton

irvin
I don't like the addition of "features" that require extra payment.

LANDR does not require extra payment. It offers several free features. It also offers optional services that require payment. Other programs call this "in-app purchases."

Even the founder admits the free stuff is a "try out" (his own words). Everything else is a paid service. It requires EXTRA payment. Otherwise, it's a "free product" the way a brochure is a "free product".

It doesn't really matter: paid or "free", it's a useless service preying on the ignorant.

irvin
Even the founder admits the free stuff is a "try out" (his own words).

 
Link? Context matters.
 

Everything else is a paid service. It requires EXTRA payment.

 
Yes, it stands to reason that those aspects that are not free require payment. 
 

It doesn't really matter: paid or "free", it's a useless service preying on the ignorant.

Check out this post from gswitz, who backs up his statements with audio examples, analysis, and statistics.
 
 
 
 

I mostly make up my own mind about things but in an area where I have no experience I'm inclined to rely on the expertise of those I know in a particular field.

I have no experience with Auto mastering software so short of trying it myself I'm inclined to listen to people that have credibility in my world. When Craig C. Says that there can be benefits apart from the purely mastering side, then I'm inclined to give his opinion some weight until such time as I've examined the service for myself and form an opinion of my own.

But whether you need LANDR or not, I can't understand the negativity being dumped on Cakewalk. Som folks seem to have a real need to dump on Cakewalk no matter what. Apart from whatever discussions took place to come to some agreement about implementing a connection to LANDR, all the time Cakewalk have spent is about similar to what any of us can do to include another codec in the export audio menu by using the supplied External codec configuration tool.