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Paul P

coolbass
It should be an option to exclude it from the sonar experience.

It is.

Well I now did uninstall it, but I was not given the option not to install it while updating.

The option is there (apparently, I haven't tried), it just hasn't been officially advertized.  You could have run the installer manually and unselected LANDR.  Sorry that it's now too late in your case, since uninstall doesn't.  You'll just have to vaccum your registry and system folders.  The easiest way to win would have been not to play.
 
I suggest to anyone, like myself, who might be sensitive to things on their system changing more that expected to wait a few days before installing a new update.  Every update scares me to death and I'll only risk it once a few weeks have passed and the sky hasn't fallen.  I leave the adventure of charting unknown territory to those braver than me.
 
Couldn't Cakwalk have explained all this to us before releasing the update ?
 

In stead of Third Party LANDR, I think Cakewalk has that expertise to create some Dials to do the same, which would be much more welcomed by the users, or may be some Mix-Bus settings presets for the people who are newcomers and impatient looking for instant results.
At least those will be Cakewalk Stuff.

maybe ccc could have an option/setting to always use the verbose installer(s)

scook
I would have preferred LANDR as separate install. In the future if Cakewalk bundles an installer like the did this time with LANDR please provide clear instructions on how to avoid installing it or at least a process to remove the product which is more complete than the Windows uninstall process.

 
+1
Also, it would've been nice if they asked our opinions first. 

pwalpwal
maybe ccc could have an option/setting to always use the verbose installer(s)

IIRC it does. Not at the DAW ATM.

rcklln
I think it would be best to have the LANDR installation/integration listed as a separate install item in C3.

Enable verbose install in the CCC options ...

To be fair, the installer does create a registry entry on whether the LANDR installer was chosen or not (requires a manual installation of Newburyport). I do not know if that is persistent, however, meaning whether or not the CCC will overwrite that in a subsequent update.

BobF

rcklln
I think it would be best to have the LANDR installation/integration listed as a separate install item in C3.

Enable verbose install in the CCC options ...

Enabling verbose install will list the LANDR option separately in C3?
 
Edited to answer my own question: I just tried it and it does not.

I must be easy or something, 'cause I just don't get the "big deal" aspect to all of this.   If you run a verbose install you have the option to not install LANDR in the first place if it's something you don't want to see anywhere near your DAW.   As far as left-over registry entries go...  do they affect your machine in any fashion other than subconsciously knowing they exist?  That's an honest question BTW since I really do not know.   Besides, I'm sure others may have noticed that left-over registry entries are not exactly a unique thing in Windows unistallers, right?   In fact...  doesn't SONAR do the same thing?   
 
Do I personally think it would good for it to be a separate download from CCC?  Sure, especially for those with limited download capabilities.  I completely get that and it's the one thing that (for me) stands out.   But I suppose that applies to anything that's part of the SONAR installer that isn't SONAR itself.   I wonder if anyone's ever picked apart those things the way LANDR has been picked apart here. 
 
And as far as the future of SONAR being somehow "tainted" by association with LANDR (and its optional install), or anything else 3rd party, that sure seems over the top from here.  I for one am grateful for the additional non-CW software we get like Nomad Factory, AD2, Melodyne Essentials, Sound Cloud export, etc..    Unlike those tools I don't plan to use LANDR since I enjoy the mastering process, but so what?  I'm just one of many.  If others can make use of LANDR for their own purposes then more power to them.  And to CW for including something new that some will find useful.
 

does LANDR do rollovers?
 
like if i choose not to blindly bounce out 2 low res MP3's this month, will I be able to get 4 the next?
 
The more I think about it the more I think i regret buying Ozone. Heres me deciding to have gone the DIY route and learn some mastering sensibilities, when I could have just spent 50 bucks more and gone for LANDRS $299 yearly subscription with the minor drawback of being limited to 16bit waves and not learning a damn thing. 
 
 
 
Seriously though, everyone is talking about performance of it, but a LANDR subscription (making is somewhat useable) is THREE times more expensive than a Plantinum subscription, plus it wont to 'HD' (assuming thats 24bit/48k), PLUS it expires!
 
I understand Cake bundling in 'Sonar Editions' of software like TH2/3, Strum, Breverb, etc, as these are fully functional products. But to include a product that times out periodically is ridiculous. 
 
I didnt use it, but I think some people did actually like Gobbler. Last I heard however that got tossed out. So why is this limited, overpriced, bloatware being included with a professionally marketed product?