Am i missing the point or could people have been using/can use LANDR even without Sonar? Never heard of L&R before and now all if a sudden the majority of Sonar users would (want to) need it?

Not saying it's bad: haven't tried it yet, but why on earth must it be part of Sonar?

Most likely the install of SONAR didn't complete properly. Try reinstalling the latest update after rebooting your computer.

martinfoss
Is the LANDR desktop app supposed to be installed automatically when updating Sonar?

When I install Sonar updates (or any software for that matter),  I always do a custom install so I have a better chance of seeing what it's doing.  With the Sonar Newburyport update, I found that the selection for the Landr component is on the same screen where it asks you to select the Apple Quicktime components.  On that part of the install, make sure that Landr is selected and it should end up being installed. 

Mind you, I chose not to install it and because of that, Landr did not even appear as an export option on the export Audio dialogue box (which is what I wanted)

I tried the Landr thing on a small section of a cover I just mixed last weekend. The things I noticed are that Landr plays back using the default windows audio which in my case is not the monitors.
 
In only tried a 30 second section of the song because my internet is so slow especially today for some reason. 
 
I will say that it was loud. So far that only thing I hear is that the female vocal could use a bit of de-esser or some eq to reduce the sibulance. I did not notice that so much when we were mixing but that could be just because my ears got used to hearing the song. Often I notice that when I let a mix/my ears rest for a bit I hear things that I did not before. 
 
I will need to listen again to see if it suggests any other problems with the mix.
 
All in all I would have preferred a separate download for the Landr but it may yet come in handy time will tell.

Hi Tom,
Landr defaults to Medium. If you want to preserve even more dynamic range try the Landr low option.

Tom Riggs

brconflict
Still having to download through the store. The Command Center still doesn't seem to understand recovery of a frozen, iffy, or lost session. Just quits downloading at a random % and never recovers.

I do the same but I put the files in the CCC download folder then use CCC to install it. THat way the Checksum is verified. If they would make CCC's download "manager" more intelligent I would use it for the whole process simplifying things as I believe it is intended.
 

If it was more intelligent, they couldn't call it a manager ...

brconflict
New Track
...Unfortunately, it still "hides" when starting a New session, in that, the standard templates hide the "New Track" and only show the [+] (at least on my 30" screen).....

I probably would have moved the "Custom" pull-down, or shrunk its default width so the "New Track" label would show immediately. That would make it very obvious.

 
I would suggest...
 
1. The default track header width in the Basic template should be a bit wider so that not only the "Add Track" label becomes visible but also three track controls become visible per row in the header (the current Basic template only shows two controls per row, with some unused space to the left of the FX Rack, which I've always found awkward).
 

 
 
2. Although this has nothing to do with Add Track, the Track Control drop-down should probably be set to "All" by default, which will allow new users to easily learn that SONAR's track header has Bank and Patch Change drop-downs.

icontakt

brconflict
New Track
...Unfortunately, it still "hides" when starting a New session, in that, the standard templates hide the "New Track" and only show the [+] (at least on my 30" screen).....

I probably would have moved the "Custom" pull-down, or shrunk its default width so the "New Track" label would show immediately. That would make it very obvious.

 
I would suggest...
 
1. The default track header width in the Basic template should be a bit wider so that not only the "Add Track" label becomes visible but also three track controls become visible per row in the header (the current Basic template only shows two controls per row, with some unused space to the left of the FX Rack, which I've always found awkward).
 

 
 
2. Although this has nothing to do with Add Track, the Track Control drop-down should probably be set to "All" by default, which will allow new users to easily learn that SONAR's track header has Bank and Patch Change drop-downs.

Can't you just change your template?

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
 
Don't do that - taste is very subjective. If you listened to presets on most synths you would think they were all horrible :)
Try it with your own music and start with the Landr Low setting. You might be surprised how good it actually is.
If you are willing to tweak your mix to accommodate what you get from Landr its very possible to get an excellent master.

b-b-b-but this is the internet. dismissing things out of hand is de rigueur!
/s
 
thanks for saying this. it needs to be said every time.

Bristol_Jonesey 
Can't you just change your template?

 
Yes, I have a very complex custom project template which I use for every serious project, and also have a slightly modified verion of the Basic template. Both of them have a perfect track header width for me, but I also tend to use the default Basic template when I try to reproduce someone else's issue (just to make sure if I can reproduce it in the default project).
 
Also, I think the changes I suggested above will help new users. They shouldn't have to widen the header width a bit and save it as a new Basic template.