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  • Video: Convert Audio to MIDI in SONAR (p.4)
2016/02/01 20:52:24
Kamikaze
I don't think I'm in a sitution to advise you Kenny, more thinking outloud, but great it kicked off an idea.
 
Melodyne and Sonar I think made the decision easier to buy a bass instead of the samples, being that it can allow me adjust take. So I don''t have to nail it, but just come close. Focus on getting a good tone and some expression.
 
Someone else posted recently, when talking about the harmonic tool. I had been thinking how it could make one of my cheaper flutes sound smoother, pulling back some of the higher harmonics, and adding weight to the lower. He had had similar ideas and succuss trying it it on bass. So when you says it doesn't care about whats on the headstock, seems we can now play with that sound in ways that make us care less too. The conversion stuff bring a whole different perspective. 
 
I was quite excited about this idea with upright bass, after disucssing yesterday, more so being that you've had success with it. Thanks for giving it a shot and confirming.
2016/02/01 21:12:35
tenfoot
kennywtelejazz

Here is one example of the proof ...
 
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=13308818
 

Thanks Kenny - nice demo:)
2016/02/02 14:32:57
kennywtelejazz
tenfoot
kennywtelejazz

Here is one example of the proof ...
 
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=13308818
 

Thanks Kenny - nice demo:)




 
Your Welcome Bruce .  I'm happy you got something out if it
 
Kenny
2016/02/03 15:34:35
Makzimia
 truly awesome. Can't make music on anything other than my iPhone at the moment, but looking forward to playing with this.
2016/02/05 06:14:32
jwbijl61
Hi,
 
I tried this with a simple accoustic guitar track in Sonar Platinum, but all I got was a synth track with all B's played in the rythm of the original guitar track. I followed the instructions in the video. Am I doing something wrong here?
 
Thanks,
JW
2016/02/05 06:16:09
Kamikaze
It needs to be set to polyphonic mode. What version are you on? It's not on Essential
2016/02/05 06:30:23
jwbijl61
I used rapture session and dimension pro in Sonar Platinum.
 
2016/02/05 06:52:00
Kamikaze
What version of Melodyne do you have?
 
If you have Essential, then set it to monophonic for melodic (monophonic) lines.
If you have Editor or Studio you can analyse polyphonic (2 notes or more (chords)at a time).
If you are getting the same note, it's probably set to rhythmic.
 
 
 
2016/02/05 07:23:35
jwbijl61
Ah, the melodyne version. That would be Essential.
I changed the settings to melodic and indeed it works now.
Thanks!
2016/02/05 21:00:26
kennywtelejazz
Hello Forum ,
 
I would like to take this moment to share with you a file that clearly indicates how good a proper Audio to Midi conversion can sound like with out any editing what so ever
Here's a  quick run down of what I did ...
 
I took an acoustic recording of an Iconic Master Jazz Guitar Player ( Joe Pass ) playing a Jazz Standard and imported the performance / song into SONAR SPlat ...
I converted the stereo track to mono and then i  set the volume to where it wasn't pushing too hard with the transients .
On my audio's track effects area I placed Midi Guitar Beta there enabled as a softsynth ...
Then I opened the synth rack and called up  an instance of Strum Session 2 as a simple soft synth ..
I set the Strum Session 2 to receive the midi data from Midi Guitar Beta ...
What I did next was arm the midi track of Strum Session to enable record and hit r on my computers keyboard .
 
For those of you that will take the time to listen to this MP3 .
I did not edit the midi whatsoever because I wanted to be able to compare the midi to audio ...
I recorded this in file in real time at the original tempo of the song ...
then I panned the audio to one side , the un rendered midi to the other and did an exported a file out of SONAR ..
 
If I had wanted to I could have rendered the midi to audio and then lined that up w the audio ...
I did not do that because I wanted to hear it exactly as it was converted to midi w out any edits ... 
 
It may be certainly true that this is not audiophile quality ...I know that ...for me this was just an experiment...
 
 
The Amazing thing is , I think that the route I went in SONAR using what I used  did an unbelievable job of processing the guitar performance ..
Now that it is Midi , I can do what ever I want with it .... 
 
This MP3  is being posted for educational purposes only .
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=13311064
 
I do hope you enjoy the possibility's of what I'm trying to convey here ...
 
 
all the best ,
Kenny
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