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2014/01/06 15:25:06
smallstonefan
Hi all,
 
Are any of you running the Mackie 1200f drivers on Windows 8? They work fine on Windows 7, but man it would suck to roll up to 8 and not have my audio interface...
2014/01/06 21:02:02
feelthelove
I have the same question about the Mackie 400F (the even lesser-known or supported precursor to the 1200F).  As far as I know, there are separate FW drivers for the 400F and 1200F; i.e. they don't work with each other.  Also, the Mackie website lists a 400F driver for Win 7 but not 8 (I'm still on Vista so have no experience with the 7 driver); for the 1200F there's only a Vista driver.  So if you're using it with Win 7 and it works, maybe it will work with Win 8, and maybe the 400F driver will work with Win 8 too (even though the website says it's for "Win 7 ONLY").  Or maybe we'll upgrade the OS and have a non-functioning audio interface.  
 
What driver version are you using for Win 7?  Looks like the latest 1200F driver is version 4.6.0.
 
ld
2014/01/06 21:31:26
smallstonefan
That's the same logic I was thinking - it works fine for 7 and might for 8. I use the 1200f (a highly under-rated piece of gear IMO) and an 800r. I would hate to lose 20 inputs from an OS update.
 
I'm not sure how to tell which driver I'm running - it doesn't appear to display it in the console... It's too bad that Mackie abandoned its users. I am really concerned about being stuck with a dead interface, but also don't want to be stuck with an OS.
2014/01/07 00:33:06
feelthelove
I agree about the Onyx FW boxes being underrated and under supported.  The 400F was pretty much abandoned as soon as it was released.  They contracted the FW driver out and couldn't fix it when it didn't work with OSX.  I had to buy a MOTU interface to replace it, but in the end kept it because of the pre's.  It was worth the $700 just for the 4 pre's which are better than anything I've used besides my UA 6176 - crazy, surprisingly good.  (Interestingly, the box says something like "preamp with Firewire" as opposed to "audio interface", suggesting it was designed as a killer preamp box, with FW thrown in for good measure.)  And the converters in it sound really nice too.  But I won't be buying anything with a driver from Mackie again.  I would say "nothing" from them again, to protest their jackleg customer support on principle, but they're sadly not exceptional from what I can tell.  It's the name of the game for so many prosumer companies - release stuff before it's really ready, hype/market it, then move on to the next thing.  Customer/product support costs money, doesn't make money (that seems to be their short-sighted view anyway).
 
Back on topic, still would like to hear if anyone has any experience with either of these boxes and Win 8...
ld
2014/01/07 22:17:43
smallstonefan
I like Mackie products, but agree that they have abandoned too many people. Shame, because it's good gear. I hope to keep this going for a long time, and don't look forward to having to replace it. When I do, it won't be Mackie...
2014/06/18 13:31:53
MikeRivers
I'm late to this thread but maybe a couple of you are still watching and waiting. I'm one of the handful of Mackie 1200F users and have been running it for many years under WinXP. The last official driver and control panel on the Windows side is 4.6.something. It was released for Vista but not updated for Win7. Do I understand correctly that this driver for the 1200F works with Windows 7?
 
They did release a Windows 7 driver for the 400F. but decided not to spend the money for a Win7 driver for the 1200F because they sold so few 1200Fs (though quite a decent lot of 400Fs). The 1200F and 400F use the same driver and control panel for Vista (version 4.6), though, at least for the 1200F, there's a firmware update that goes along with the driver update from the last XP driver, version 3.2.8
 
I have a computer with Vista and a Firewire interface. I'd like to try the 1200F with that computer and some software that requires at least a dual core CPU and all of my WinXP computers are Pentium 4s. But since the Vista computer isn't my main audio computer, when I get bored playing with the Mixbus software, I'd like to be able to move the 1200F back to the XP computer.
 
So here's my conundrum. I asked Mackie if the firmware upgrade that goes with the Vista driver would "break" it for working with the XP driver and control panel. They believed that it would still work but that it might be a little buggy. They don't support that configuration, and there's no official record of having tested it.
 
I'd like if anyone here has tried a Vista updated 1200F under Windows XP and can report how well it works, or doesn't. I'm willing to be a guinea pig, but I'd like to be able to "downgrade" it back to its present firmware if I find problems with the new firmware and the XP driver. Mackie doesn't have a stand-alone utility to read and save the existing firmware so that it can be re-installed. I'm sure one exists (they are, too) but, again, they don't support the interface any longer, not even for old friends like me, so they can't be of any further help.
 
My next step is to try to find someone cooperative at Echo, since they did the drivers for the 1200F, and see if they can either send me a flash loader or tell me where to go to get it, but I don't have a lot of hope for it. This forum is the only place where I've found any 1200F users, so I thought I'd inquire here first.
 
 
2014/06/20 14:53:37
smallstonefan
I have the driver working fine in 64bit Windows 7, but I haven't had the guts to move to Windows 8. Sorry I can't be of more help.
2014/06/20 18:45:36
MikeRivers
smallstonefan
I have the driver working fine in 64bit Windows 7, but I haven't had the guts to move to Windows 8. Sorry I can't be of more help.



Thanks. My Win7 setup is 32-bit but since my 1200F is working with 32-bit XP and yours is working with 64-bit Win7, there's a pretty good chance that it'll work under 32-bit Win7.
 
As for Windows 8, well, Mackie is pretty adamant that they don't really know anything about the 1200F beyond the last update for Vista, and that they don't have the time or resources to dig back into their old software stuff to see if they can find the flash memory loaded program that would allow me to "downgrade" to the earlier firmware version in case I'm not happy with how it works under XP with the new firmware. They were pretty encouraging, but they were also clear that they had never tested the new firmware under either XP or Win7 and that they had no intent on doing so, or supporting a downgrade if I wanted one. And this is from folks at Mackie who I consider friends, so I guess that's all they have to say and do for us.
 
   -  Mike
2014/06/25 04:50:54
solaceten
Hi - new here and signed up to follow and comment on this thread.
 
I have a Onyx400f too (disgusting how Mackie have treated us).
 
Will soon be upgrading to Win7 from XP - Curious to know did you use the Win 7 driver on the mackie site, or the vista driver?
mackie dot com/products/400f/update
Would also love to know if anyone knows of a linux driver.
 
Thanks in advance.
Sol
2014/06/25 07:01:29
fireberd
In most cases, Windows 7 drivers work for Windows 8.  There have been a few (not many) issues with some device drivers and Windows 8.1 that required Windows 8.1 specific drivers.  Otherwise if it works in Win 7 it "should" work OK in Win 8. 
 
Firewire devices, whether in Vista/Win7/Win8 should use the "legacy FW driver" (for the FW controller) rather than the default driver that Windows uses.  Many devices work better (or even work) with the legacy FW driver.
 
I do support on some computer forums, including the Windows 8 forum, and there has been very little problems with devices.  If they work in Win 7, with a Vista/Win7 driver, they work in Win 8. 
 
I only have USB devices, now,  but all my devices work in Win 8 as they did in Win 7.  Including a Roland Octa-Capture, MAudio Fastrack Ultra 8R, Behringer BCF 2000 (it was plug and play), Korg Nanocontroller.  The only exception is my Frontier Tranzport, I had to install it in a Vista compatibility mode (it does not have Win 7 specific drivers, only XP and Vista).
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