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2016/02/17 17:11:51
Dan Gonzalez [Cakewalk]
azslow3
ampfixer
Another way to do something that's already pretty easy. Meh, sorry.

Right clip menu, keyboard shortcut, control surface binding... But on that place I currently see time display, which is definitively more useful that this "+" button. Is it going to be removed?


No, this won't be removed.
2016/02/17 17:59:18
rodreb
Personally, I'm a long time Sonar user and, I like it! It's a nice, clean looking, fast, simple way of doing something. What's wrong with that?  
2016/02/17 18:10:37
Paul P
jpetersen
1) The user is so new as not to have though of clicking on Insert>Audio Track.



I'm not that new and this afternoon I wanted to quickly insert 12 audio tracks into a new project.  I right click and see only "Insert Track" [hmmm].  I hit "Insert" in the main menu and see only "Audio Track", "MIDI Track" and "Soft Synth" (followed by "Rewire Device").  I mutter to myself and manually insert a single track 12 times.  It kept nagging me that there had to be a way so I searched the forum and learned that there is a "Multiple Tracks" buried in the Insert menu.  It would have been so much easier with this new way, or had there been a 'multiple' option clearly visible in the context menu.
 
2016/02/17 18:18:51
fitzj
Nice like that.
2016/02/17 18:22:50
John T
Dan Gonzalez [Cakewalk]
azslow3
ampfixer
Another way to do something that's already pretty easy. Meh, sorry.

Right clip menu, keyboard shortcut, control surface binding... But on that place I currently see time display, which is definitively more useful that this "+" button. Is it going to be removed?


No, this won't be removed.


Ah, cool. I do use that from time to time. Useful to have two different time-bases visible sometimes, eg: MBT and absolute time, or (in a recent case) absolute time and samples. I would have missed it a bit, I think.
2016/02/17 18:25:39
John T
Dan Gonzalez [Cakewalk]
markyzno
Quick and easy but doubt if it will change my old school seasoned way of workflow.
 
Good for new Users. Something as an Old User that I probably wont use.




Exactly, you guys have your own slick ways of using SONAR. New users will have the ability to insert new tracks easily.
-DG


Yeah, the first thing I thought was "well, I've got track templates now for nearly all of my common use cases, so I don't need this". But the second thing I thought was "this is great for anything I don't already have a template for".
 
It's basically a wizard-style approach, when previously we've only had a manual config-style approach. I think it's nice.
2016/02/17 18:27:06
John T
I have a question, from watching the video. Can you change the initial defaults?
 
I don't mean change them in the box; obviously you can do that. I mean change what's initially selected when you open the box.
 
For example, the video says that the default input for audio tracks is your interface's first STEREO input. For myself, I'll want that in like 1 in a thousands cases, if ever.
2016/02/17 18:47:19
declan
Thanks for the comments Dan.  I do see promise in this.  I am no newbie (20 years), but for all the different kind  of templates I've made my midi routings keep getting messed up when I load them using multi-timbral synths.  
 
I saw a tutorial for Omnisphere 2 being used in Logic, and maybe it was edited, but it didn't look like it, and I watched 2 seconds of video about 9 times. It was two clicks, one looked like a square but it knew what synth he was using (because he was at the time) and anticipated that he wanted the next available midi channel (no doubt selected in whatever their Preferences page is called). 
 
But it was such a basic concept - someone adding a sound into a multitimbral instrument and had the new midi track in focus so he could hear it.
 
As of now I right click to an empty space, add the midi track, open the Track Inspector, select the midi channel then click off and then on the new track to give it "focus" (yes I know I could save a step, but at least I know this fool-proof :-), but it still seems cumbersome. 
 
So I've been very interested in this new feature when it was "coming soon".  That the TTS1 is the 1st thing that comes up in the list seems that you're feeling occasional brain-lapses by some of your customers (like me). 
 
I hope this makes some semblance of sense, because this is the closest I've ever come to a feature request.  My apologies in either case. 
2016/02/17 19:26:42
Paul P
declan
That the TTS1 is the 1st thing that comes up in the list seems that you're feeling occasional brain-lapses by some of your customers (like me). 

 
I would hope that this synth list is user programmable using Plug-in Layouts just like every other synth list in Sonar (there are at least 4 other lists).  I never use TTS1.
 
2016/02/17 19:40:04
Funkybot
What is the problem this feature was designed to solve? Were people unaware of how to add a track? Was it to improve the speed/workflow of adding a track?
 
I'd love to see Sonar move in the direction of "FEWER menus, windows, and clicks" to truly speed up the workflow. For instance, 1) clicking the Add Track button should just automatically add an audio track routed to the master output. One click. Covers probably 90% of audio track use cases. 2) Clicking and dragging an instrument to the Project pane should automatically add a single instrument track routed to the master bus. Single click and drag operation, covers most use cases. No pop up windows, no extraneous options.
 
Now...for when I want to add multiple tracks or want to route tracks somewhere else, or create a folder, how about: 3) Ctrl+Add Track Button to open the pop-up menu. Do something similar for synths when I need a multi-timbral or multi-out setup. 
 
The goal in Sonar should be to reduce the menu-popup type behavior so more operations are done in a single click. It may involve figuring out how to do things on the back end (like setting up multiple outputs on an instrument from the plugin menu in Studio One) but there's definitely a way to be flexible and fast.
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