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  • BandLab Can u please extend the Aplha numerical limit on the plugin folder
2018/06/08 02:29:03
taccess
I use Cakewalk and Ableton as my DAWs.
I have spent alot of time sorting out my custom plugin menu inside cakewalks Plugin Manager.
 
I have decided to sort out c:Program files >Cakewalk > VstPlugins to match the plugin manager compressors limiters dynamics etc etc.
This has enabled me to have everything sorted for Ableton and Cakewalk.
 
The problem is when i fire up platinum it begins a scan of the plugin menu but it will not scan because the alpha numerical limit is reached inside platinum. ( Yes i have confirmed this is what is happening ) so i am unable to use platinum.
 
Ableton has no problem with the folder structure and i say this OnLy so that we know its not a windows 10 alpha numerical limitation.
 
I could have two separate VST folders but i want to believe that platinum is on a path to a better place and the little things like this are just important to BandLab as it is to there users.
2018/06/08 09:16:15
pwalpwal
can you give an example of a long filepath that's being rejected? (or just the longest one in your folder hive if the error isn't specific)
2018/06/08 18:00:02
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
How did you confirm that this was the problem?
Can you list the path it wont scan?
2018/06/08 18:54:44
Studioguy1
I'd sure be interested in knowing what that number was.  My friend's Cakewalk loads over 4000 plugins.  Just what number are you at?
2018/06/09 02:40:46
taccess
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
How did you confirm that this was the problem?
Can you list the path it wont scan?


Hi Noel
 
What i did to confirm that it was very simple actually.
I cut and pasted the whole C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\VstPlugins folder to my D drive.
I then pasted my Effects folder "s" back to C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\VstPlugins one at a time, firing up platinum to see if the vst scan would run.
When i reached a folder alphabetical "length" that stopped the platinum vst scan i narrowed that folder to the actual plugin causing the scan to not run.
Then i reduced the alphabetical characters until it did scan making sure it was not the plugin itself.
Its definitely a alphabetical character limit inside platinum, that is not a windows restriction confirmed two ways
1) Ableton reads all the folders regardless of the character lengths.
2) Cut and pasting from C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\VstPlugins to D:Drive allows windows to let me know if i have reached a character limit inside windows 10.
 
I should say that my  C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\VstPlugins i have two top hierarchy folders
Effectz:
Instumentz :
 
as an example :
C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\VstPlugins\EffectZ\Dynamics\Dynamics - Compressor\Compressor - Variable MU\Variable MU - Emulation\Fairchild 670\UAD\UAD Fairchild 670.dll
A further example of the dynamics folder structure is :
Effectz :
Effectz > Dynamics
Effectz > Dynamics > Dynamics - Compressor
Effectz > Dynamics > Dynamics - EQ
Effectz > Dynamics > Dynamics - Gate
Effectz > Dynamics > Dynamics - Limiter
Effectz > Dynamics > Dynamics - Modulation
Effectz > Dynamics > Dynamics - Multi Processing
Effectz > Dynamics > Dynamics - Rack
Effectz > Dynamics > Dynamics - Saturation
Effectz > Dynamics > Dynamics - Transient
Effectz > Dynamics > Dynamics - Utility
Effectz > Dynamics > Dynamics - Vintage
 
I am only asking for platinum's character length to be extended to match windows 10'z limit.
Platinum is my main DAW.
Please
 
 
 
2018/06/09 03:57:10
vladasyn
I know what the problem is. It is OCD. 
2018/06/09 03:58:31
Euthymia
taccess
When i reached a folder alphabetical "length" that stopped the platinum vst scan i narrowed that folder to the actual plugin causing the scan to not run.



That's good troubleshooting. Did you make a note of or remember which folder that was?
 
I suspect for the programmers to track this issue down, and see if they can easily make it work the way you would like, it would help to know the length of the string that breaks the scan.
 
I'll take a guess and say 256 characters. ;-)
2018/06/09 04:24:46
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Will look into it. There are path size limits in Windows unless one uses UNC paths. The folder you quoted is within those limits however.
2018/06/09 04:41:32
vladasyn
My old computer (2013 Core i7) fails scans and hangs frequently- there was issue with scans that never got resolved, just improved. 
2018/06/10 00:16:52
Euthymia
vladasyn
I know what the problem is. It is OCD.



ActuaLOL!
 
Bad Vladasyn.
 
But really, since Windows 10 has lifted the 256 character limit on path namespace, it's good that Ableton user taccess found it during the "Early Access" phase, isn't it? The VST scanner goes back to the Win32 filesystem, so it might be built assuming its limitations.
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