tenfoot
Sanderxpander
Thanks I'll try using that instead. If it works well my feature request is mainly a matter of reorganization - put a wuantize midi effect on every clip by default (set to zero strength perhaps) and put some sliders in the PRV or imspector. Although, does the quantize midi effect actually visibly move the notes? Sometimes that's quite helpful.
That would all certainly be great Sanderxpander. Unfortunately the notes do not move when using the quantize plugin which I too think would be very useful.
General MIDI plug-ins do unpredictable from Sonar perspective changes. In general, they can generate different result every time they run (like some Synth do, there was long thread about it and the result was patch points feature in Sonar). And so, in general it is not possible to show what some effect produce till it is applied. And every time it is applies, the result can be different. If they try to show that in PRV, every time you modify some note they re-render effect for the whole clip and you see all notes are changes. Can that be helpful? I do not think so. The only possible solution I can imagine is "freezing clip" with all local effects applied, so it function like "bounce" but with possibility to unfreeze and tune parameters/modify notes. But I guess that is not exactly what you want.
Another possibility is to introduce dedicated set of MIDI effects, so there behavior is known (for example they always produce the same output for any particular note). That can do the trick. Unfortunately what is going to happened we can see in audio "filters", introduced in Sonar long time ago. At some point they was converted to ProChannel. And while the effect on audio is exactly the same as from normal Audio FX, thanks to "very special" logic that part is quite buggy from many perspectives...